we are surrounded by religion even SOAKED and enveloped. what is the first book of the bible? christianity and modern judaism agree that the first "book" is not the book of moses but the book of genesis it is consideredd a book.
i was once told differently but that lie has been revealed by modern judaism even rabbinate of israel agrees to christianity genesis is a book so now we discuss the book which one? the one named genesis
what is in the book?
before reading every word from beginning to end we should see a dsummary christians summarize as the creation story and stories about four key people."
this sumary is very bad because it causes prejudice and reveals bias.
based on the text itself there are only two main characters; abraham with 12 pages of 48 orr a quarter and josef with 22 pages of 48 almost have so together most of the book is about two. saying a bist about isac is silly that is the bias that isac is important yet the book itself makes josef and abraham the important ones WORTH discussing.
the christian book helps to notice the PROBLEMS which we might not have noticed in genesis.
for example they say the story of adam's creation as described in chapter 2 is "day 6" in conflict with the book itself jesus christ !! which says adam was made on "the day heaven and earth" were created one day for all three challenges the first chapter which said adam wasnot the day of sky and earth but sky day 2 and dirt day 3 and adam not either! neither christ! the order of creation conflicts what scientists have discovered even if the y could stretch a day into millions of years the order is bad.
in fact one rabbi said the long life of 900 years in genesis is truly short while the day in genesis is truly long opposites of the book and of each other! if a jeww wrote genesis it was a bad choice to write about abraham because the father of israelites is the one named israel hence "sons of israel" means israel is the father going before him is too early and more than a page on grandpa abe is ridiculous.
the roots of the israelite are preserved in the end of the book joshua and can replace this book whose main story of josef is A HATE STORY of murderous hate. this theme is also repeated in shorter stories and such a bad book cannot be holy it certainly is not goidly of god is merciful in fact the letter romans has wrath so even the new testament is not from a merciful god either.
Tuesday, March 28, 2017
why do religious people lie, SO MUCH?
we know why religious people are motivated to lie- it is for the purpose of their faith that motivates them to say stuff. sometimes we can catch the lie and others are harder to notice so instead we must approach different they must claim with support so we caqn catch the lies or else it is as if they did not speak. an unsupported claim is like silence and can be refuted the same.
a jewish book i read recently claims over 66% of scientists believe in god.
this lie of course serves the purpose of making religion less gross.
over 66 percent? jesus christ !!
luckily it had a footnote or we could dismiss the baseless claim as"just another" religious trick.
the rabbi wrote of "scientists in general" claiming over two thirds are theists.
on page 49 of rabbi book the footnote as ignorant of academic tyle has only title and author.
we know that LESS THAN HALF are theists of any kind from that same source Ecklunde, revealing the lie. MOST scientists EVEN westerners enveloped by christianity, are not theists since
QUOTE "Nearly 50 percent of them are religious. Many others are “spiritual entrepreneurs,” seeking creative ways to work with the tensions between science and faith outside the constraints of traditional religion. " much more than half are FREE of religion and the word "nearly" could be 46% not 49% displaying a bias but even after her tricky "nearly", still most deny god and did not find god in nature.
I accuse the rabbi of lying about ecklund and hiding the agnostic group who deny god with certainty because we cannot asses imaginary god yet are not atheists.
those who believe in god may or might not be religious and consider the poll only asked 1700 souirce of number and quote
http://www.elainehowardecklund.com/books/science-vs-religion/
consider the millions of chinese scientists not soaked SOAKED in christianity the way westerners
CONSIDER WESTERNERS WERE TOLD AS A CHILD THERE IS SANTA CLAUS AND GOD
and at that young age when kids believe BOTH the faith was inserted and can linger obviously and NO WONDER THE FAITH LINGERED IT WAS INSERTED NOT DISCOVERED.
so they have lied and will lie but they lie SO MUCH makes me feel sick.
a jewish book i read recently claims over 66% of scientists believe in god.
this lie of course serves the purpose of making religion less gross.
over 66 percent? jesus christ !!
luckily it had a footnote or we could dismiss the baseless claim as"just another" religious trick.
the rabbi wrote of "scientists in general" claiming over two thirds are theists.
on page 49 of rabbi book the footnote as ignorant of academic tyle has only title and author.
we know that LESS THAN HALF are theists of any kind from that same source Ecklunde, revealing the lie. MOST scientists EVEN westerners enveloped by christianity, are not theists since
QUOTE "Nearly 50 percent of them are religious. Many others are “spiritual entrepreneurs,” seeking creative ways to work with the tensions between science and faith outside the constraints of traditional religion. " much more than half are FREE of religion and the word "nearly" could be 46% not 49% displaying a bias but even after her tricky "nearly", still most deny god and did not find god in nature.
I accuse the rabbi of lying about ecklund and hiding the agnostic group who deny god with certainty because we cannot asses imaginary god yet are not atheists.
those who believe in god may or might not be religious and consider the poll only asked 1700 souirce of number and quote
http://www.elainehowardecklund.com/books/science-vs-religion/
consider the millions of chinese scientists not soaked SOAKED in christianity the way westerners
CONSIDER WESTERNERS WERE TOLD AS A CHILD THERE IS SANTA CLAUS AND GOD
and at that young age when kids believe BOTH the faith was inserted and can linger obviously and NO WONDER THE FAITH LINGERED IT WAS INSERTED NOT DISCOVERED.
so they have lied and will lie but they lie SO MUCH makes me feel sick.
Monday, March 20, 2017
why westerners keep losing and will lose
I recently watched the video "eye in the sky." it is a drama showing the emotions and hesitations in military operations.
the video describes very well the cause of westerners continual failures and describes why westerners are doomed to defeat concerning terrorists.
if only! we could only MOVE our callousness involved in ignoring our OWN baby's intense pain in circumcision, jesus christ !! not even to cancel the callousness, but move it to being callous when stopping terrorists... that would be two important changes in one.
i imagine watching this video IF as a believer in jihad... definitely categorize as comedy. not drama but a laugh a minute.
we westerners are doomed.
the video describes very well the cause of westerners continual failures and describes why westerners are doomed to defeat concerning terrorists.
if only! we could only MOVE our callousness involved in ignoring our OWN baby's intense pain in circumcision, jesus christ !! not even to cancel the callousness, but move it to being callous when stopping terrorists... that would be two important changes in one.
i imagine watching this video IF as a believer in jihad... definitely categorize as comedy. not drama but a laugh a minute.
we westerners are doomed.
Friday, March 10, 2017
when adopt
a christian trick is to say matthew was written inj 90 so near to jesus however the important issue is when adopted. eusibius is considered ancient he was acive in 320 AD
http://www.ntcanon.org/Eusebius.shtml died 340 over 300 years after jesus so if he has 4 gospels that is not original!
another trick is to group "scriptural" ith "quoted from" "accepted; true; scriptural; or quoted from " yet hebrews is a disputed book and some claim polycarp "quoted" from it it is still disputed who said scriptural? silence is not a reason to include. p has similar ideas to peter and 1 john but he also quoted from hebrews which as eusebius pointed out is disputed like apocalypse called now revelation with the word apocolypse bishop ignatius never has peter and john's letters because original christians did not read those "existing" texts written in 90 yet ignored from 90-130 ad and even until eusibius in 340 AD so the book is not truly christian but a new faith claiming other books which 200 hundred! years of bishops ignored or rejected see previous post for revelation. also deutero paul trick not truly paul and if so not from apostle. only apostolic should be in and ignatius did not refer to any of pauls existing since 54 AD letters! except for similar wording but never referring this is pauls idea. that is not original followers of christ but a new faith believing in other books and the one quote is not realy a quote from luke but indicates a different source swapped out REPLACED by 4 gospels by the new faith a different religion with a different tradition and adding books.
did jesus die? yes if so not god.
http://www.ntcanon.org/Eusebius.shtml died 340 over 300 years after jesus so if he has 4 gospels that is not original!
another trick is to group "scriptural" ith "quoted from" "accepted; true; scriptural; or quoted from " yet hebrews is a disputed book and some claim polycarp "quoted" from it it is still disputed who said scriptural? silence is not a reason to include. p has similar ideas to peter and 1 john but he also quoted from hebrews which as eusebius pointed out is disputed like apocalypse called now revelation with the word apocolypse bishop ignatius never has peter and john's letters because original christians did not read those "existing" texts written in 90 yet ignored from 90-130 ad and even until eusibius in 340 AD so the book is not truly christian but a new faith claiming other books which 200 hundred! years of bishops ignored or rejected see previous post for revelation. also deutero paul trick not truly paul and if so not from apostle. only apostolic should be in and ignatius did not refer to any of pauls existing since 54 AD letters! except for similar wording but never referring this is pauls idea. that is not original followers of christ but a new faith believing in other books and the one quote is not realy a quote from luke but indicates a different source swapped out REPLACED by 4 gospels by the new faith a different religion with a different tradition and adding books.
did jesus die? yes if so not god.
unique day in nature
In Britian, in london, on the date march 17, next week, the length of sun-period called day will be the same as the night, in contrast to the day before it and after it each different by 4 minutes. yes we were told that event is called equinox and it "is" on march 21 but it is not.
by the date 21 march it will be a quarter hour wrong and a half hour more than night.
https://www.timeanddate.com/sun/uk/london
what about south america?
this natural event in Buenos Aires, Argentina: of the equal daylength is march 24. same as australia/canberra. note: these in the southern hemisphere suntime not getting longer but shorter. the opposite of spring in the north as we can see in london.
in new delhi india, this event is on the day identified by the date march 16 and same in north america new york city.
very different in :
Yamoussoukro, Cote d'Ivoire (Ivory Coast) this event is march 2 over a week ago.
https://www.timeanddate.com/sun/cote-divoire/yamoussoukro
fascinating.
by the date 21 march it will be a quarter hour wrong and a half hour more than night.
https://www.timeanddate.com/sun/uk/london
what about south america?
this natural event in Buenos Aires, Argentina: of the equal daylength is march 24. same as australia/canberra. note: these in the southern hemisphere suntime not getting longer but shorter. the opposite of spring in the north as we can see in london.
in new delhi india, this event is on the day identified by the date march 16 and same in north america new york city.
very different in :
Yamoussoukro, Cote d'Ivoire (Ivory Coast) this event is march 2 over a week ago.
https://www.timeanddate.com/sun/cote-divoire/yamoussoukro
fascinating.
pleasure era eschatology and pleasure
a significant difference between the religious studies of christians to jews is the study of the era of pleasure.
christians study eschatology, based mainly on the book revelation which in greek is called apocalypse=wrath or light [my opinion always wrath even in luke].
what is our generation's response when i say "i will reveal the future: just like now fruit grows on a tree to eat, so in the future the meat of the chicken leg will.
a vegetarian might reply: meat without killing? I wish but be realistic
animatarian would say get real! it will not happen nor need to happen.
healthy skepticism. good until it is in a religious book. the jewish faith predicts "bread will grow on trees" silly? not for jws! the holy book said so therefore it is faith.
the jewish do not study about the changed world despite a famous rabbi moshe wrote about the changed world and also small hints in isaia
in contrast, christians study the "end" called eschatology and troubles and debate the order.
I must point out that:
***Eusebius around 300 AD wrote that the book "revelation" [which as mentioned begins with the greek word] apocalypse (used in modern english for great destruction ) is a DISPUTED BOOK and earlier bishops did not even mention it. which matches=would be expected if the book was not studied nor recognized.
evidence for atheism is that the liars were not stopped from tricks who in an effort to defend the addition of a disputed book into the bible, say silence of ignatius is unknown, what a dirty god-forsaken trick.
he did not read it and as eusebius wrote, it is a disputed book not holy nor prophecy from god, but merely a guess about the future.
in fact even the prophecies never say "when" so wait a thousand years maybe by chance a few details will happen, and then KEEP WAITING because no "time" for the prediction. compare this: one day US will have a woman president. keep waiting!
so studying a disputed book and things related, may be fun because it is imaginary like STAR TREK 23 century, but seriously be realistic: it is just a guess and a silly guess to claim "different" or pleasure. note: isaia never said "when" which year. so it is silly to study the era of pleasure.
***Even the bible said elsewhere "that which was, it will be".
christians study eschatology, based mainly on the book revelation which in greek is called apocalypse=wrath or light [my opinion always wrath even in luke].
what is our generation's response when i say "i will reveal the future: just like now fruit grows on a tree to eat, so in the future the meat of the chicken leg will.
a vegetarian might reply: meat without killing? I wish but be realistic
animatarian would say get real! it will not happen nor need to happen.
healthy skepticism. good until it is in a religious book. the jewish faith predicts "bread will grow on trees" silly? not for jws! the holy book said so therefore it is faith.
the jewish do not study about the changed world despite a famous rabbi moshe wrote about the changed world and also small hints in isaia
in contrast, christians study the "end" called eschatology and troubles and debate the order.
I must point out that:
***Eusebius around 300 AD wrote that the book "revelation" [which as mentioned begins with the greek word] apocalypse (used in modern english for great destruction ) is a DISPUTED BOOK and earlier bishops did not even mention it. which matches=would be expected if the book was not studied nor recognized.
evidence for atheism is that the liars were not stopped from tricks who in an effort to defend the addition of a disputed book into the bible, say silence of ignatius is unknown, what a dirty god-forsaken trick.
he did not read it and as eusebius wrote, it is a disputed book not holy nor prophecy from god, but merely a guess about the future.
in fact even the prophecies never say "when" so wait a thousand years maybe by chance a few details will happen, and then KEEP WAITING because no "time" for the prediction. compare this: one day US will have a woman president. keep waiting!
so studying a disputed book and things related, may be fun because it is imaginary like STAR TREK 23 century, but seriously be realistic: it is just a guess and a silly guess to claim "different" or pleasure. note: isaia never said "when" which year. so it is silly to study the era of pleasure.
***Even the bible said elsewhere "that which was, it will be".
Wednesday, March 8, 2017
the month song
note: this rhyme is inspired by a classic simon and garfunkel song with "april thrill and july fly" etc. the song begins with march as explained in the previous post: counting back 8 from october.
march was named for the god of war mars also the red planet named for that god and the name was adjusted to march and similar names in other countries.
*title of poem: Art in March
by n8
I enjoy making art in March
a giant bridge with a wide arch
on the warm spring days in April
i slide in water! such a thrill!
prepare for vacation in May
give employers your resume`
during the short hot nights of June
lay on your back and watch the moon.
summer vacation in July
i love this most, that is no lie!
summer months including August -
are hot! August feels the hottest
return to school in September
learn more than what we remember
summer vacation in July
i love this most, that is no lie!
march was named for the god of war mars also the red planet named for that god and the name was adjusted to march and similar names in other countries.
*title of poem: Art in March
by n8
I enjoy making art in March
a giant bridge with a wide arch
on the warm spring days in April
i slide in water! such a thrill!
prepare for vacation in May
give employers your resume`
during the short hot nights of June
lay on your back and watch the moon.
summer vacation in July
i love this most, that is no lie!
summer months including August -
are hot! August feels the hottest
return to school in September
learn more than what we remember
summer vacation in July
i love this most, that is no lie!
march, month three is number one
introductory anecdote: when I was a student in elementary school, a teacher taught us that an octagon not only is the name for the shape with 8 sides, but in fact the term oct means 8 like octopus octagon. i blurted out as my mind raced "also october" and said: "october ... is the tenth month... so you are mistaken."
the teacher reassured us that even the book said so. "sometimes books are wrong (consider) october is not the eighth month." she said "december is the tenth month like decimal, therefore oct must be two before." no, i was stubborn dec is 12 and the eighth month IS august.
assuming the year ends in december that would mean ten month year each month with 36 days? or count backwards 8!
MAYBE in the past the year began in march. pre-church maybe march was month one and the 8 month was called october for 8 m,a,m,j,j,a,s,o=8
and december ten and february 12.
christians made a shift to make month one different from march. starting from the beginning of the month after jesus's birth and that is why we number january with the number 1 because of jesus. well what if jesis DIED that would indicate he is not god immortal, and things should not be bent for him.
the original calendar as indicated by october and december and as historians found and published in an encyclopedia that i read a few weeks ago:
indeed as I guessed, despite janus being the god of beginnings, still march was 1 and indeed that is why october was called october whereas february was month 12 matching the leap-year day decision:
to add the leap year as the most appropriate date as: the last day of the year is the fix day called 29 feb. before the new year in march now we comprehend how religion shifted and made a mess because keeping the names and changing the starting point to jesus birth makes the first month january and ruined sept=7 october november and december all ruined by religion
luckily we use numbers for months yet kids must learn the names to identify them and october was ruined by religion.
anyway to preserve march is the first month before the christians ruined october+compelled us to submit to them in contracts and culture, I wrote a rhyme about march and the year
in next post...
the teacher reassured us that even the book said so. "sometimes books are wrong (consider) october is not the eighth month." she said "december is the tenth month like decimal, therefore oct must be two before." no, i was stubborn dec is 12 and the eighth month IS august.
assuming the year ends in december that would mean ten month year each month with 36 days? or count backwards 8!
MAYBE in the past the year began in march. pre-church maybe march was month one and the 8 month was called october for 8 m,a,m,j,j,a,s,o=8
and december ten and february 12.
christians made a shift to make month one different from march. starting from the beginning of the month after jesus's birth and that is why we number january with the number 1 because of jesus. well what if jesis DIED that would indicate he is not god immortal, and things should not be bent for him.
the original calendar as indicated by october and december and as historians found and published in an encyclopedia that i read a few weeks ago:
indeed as I guessed, despite janus being the god of beginnings, still march was 1 and indeed that is why october was called october whereas february was month 12 matching the leap-year day decision:
to add the leap year as the most appropriate date as: the last day of the year is the fix day called 29 feb. before the new year in march now we comprehend how religion shifted and made a mess because keeping the names and changing the starting point to jesus birth makes the first month january and ruined sept=7 october november and december all ruined by religion
luckily we use numbers for months yet kids must learn the names to identify them and october was ruined by religion.
anyway to preserve march is the first month before the christians ruined october+compelled us to submit to them in contracts and culture, I wrote a rhyme about march and the year
in next post...
march is fiction month!
we know that certain books and tv series+es are fiction. we know that a debate rages about religious books ADMITTEDLY, only in our generation, BECAUSE in earlier generations there would be one opinion and many burnt corpses.
so the category non-fiction to include religious books which some say are "historical" giving the students a prejudice to accept as fact and even bend things to make them match each other and history... while calling them= those "historical" bible books legend is only fair after comprehending that honesty is important and bending a books content to make it fit is bad corruption.
so MARCH: a fictional character named jake from the series "2 and a half men" has a birthday this month next week NOT the actor, silly!
the fateful day when "cosmo thought and timmy's friends entered the coolest most amazing video game ever" was also march.
in fact specifically this year, this fictional event is a precise match: march 22 will be Wednesday this year, just like in the fictional timmy world called "fairly odd parents" which I enjoy and recommend for its extreme variety through magic appropriate to the theme.
in fact after examining the dreadful contents of the bible it seems much more reasonable, than faith in the bible's contents, to have faith that these two series's are historical
so the category non-fiction to include religious books which some say are "historical" giving the students a prejudice to accept as fact and even bend things to make them match each other and history... while calling them= those "historical" bible books legend is only fair after comprehending that honesty is important and bending a books content to make it fit is bad corruption.
so MARCH: a fictional character named jake from the series "2 and a half men" has a birthday this month next week NOT the actor, silly!
the fateful day when "cosmo thought and timmy's friends entered the coolest most amazing video game ever" was also march.
in fact specifically this year, this fictional event is a precise match: march 22 will be Wednesday this year, just like in the fictional timmy world called "fairly odd parents" which I enjoy and recommend for its extreme variety through magic appropriate to the theme.
in fact after examining the dreadful contents of the bible it seems much more reasonable, than faith in the bible's contents, to have faith that these two series's are historical
is the book judges reliable?
the book judges can be summarized as cycles "israel sinned was enslaved begged god for dorgiveness and rescued" followed by a long peace of forty or 80 years. until we get the surprising jolt in the book of kings the message of the book is that "the land" with the word "the" the one we are familiar with not only one city was calm for 40 or 80 years. okay.
before reading the whole book and then a getting a horrid jolt at the endthat these cycles are wrong trust my experience and SKIP to the end.
in the story of dan the people worship a statue and continue a long time which refutes the cycles summarised which fill almost the whole book of judges in fact this issue is the same as the issue in ecclesiastes kohelet the "evil" do succeed long and if so the stories which say theuyy wer enslaved for sin is a lie and they could have continued like dan and any enslavement is not as the book claims since this issue is a faith issue how to perceive the wicked issue 2 actually is reason to reject this bad book as an unholy lie. in fact the book itself reveals that dan didnot have a cycle and the earlier cycles could have been like dan without enslavement so the enslavement isnot punishment requiring re3pentance as the book claimed so lengthily. another problem is that whjat appears in the book is story after story with long eras of peace yet if this is true than tis conflicts the generation is chronicles as well as the number of years in the book kings. scholars say "not consecutive but parallel" the 40 years of peace in the six stories are the same 40 years and the tragedy preceding the 40 years were simultaneous in different places cool commentary? why is it absent from the book?? jesus christ !! only influence from the book of kings causes them to say not consecutive! they deny what appears in the book the message that appears in the book is not parallel stories in the samne era and instead of eduiting at the the same time it seems to say one judeged THE NATION since the number of years conflicts othyer books perhaps we should accept judges and remove the conflicting book of kings with "only" 480 years? okay no kings.
still the cycles in judges are error considering the end of the book the story of dan so this book based on its contents has been revealed as a bad book of unholy lies. next should be ruth and the christians fixed thios tradition by placing ruth between samuel and kingsbut since we define goid as not weak samuel which describes god as powerless to remove the king he rejected this is a hereticla book seeprevious post samuel for details. also kings has the number 490 which if we respect truth and honesty and if numbers have meaning them it conflicts judges as mentioned the religious need to corrupt one or the other source and some corrupt kings while others ciorrupt judges.
one more issue is the time span between nebucadnezer and mesa some religious get excited that the story of mesa strengthens the bible some religious jews and christians emphasize this yet actually mesa REVEALS another lie.
we know the time span between:
*** mesa and nebuchadnezer and that is different from the total years counted in both kings and chronicles. god would know the true number so these two books kings and chronicles [counted as 4 by religion] are unholy lies not from god. after removing the relative-to-god heretical book of samuel and the inaccurate book of kings and chronicles what remains is:
ruth which jews have in a location far from king david which is a bad decision and should be moved yet even ruth has errors revealed when compared to josephus and only what is common with josephus story of ruth common with ruth is supported mutually, not the numerous details unsupported in each text. now we can summarize:
1joshua- the end "not sword" reveals most content lie=bad book so reject but rescue a bit.
2judges the end refutes the cycles of most of the book=x
3samuel god weak issue 3 see previous post=x
4ruth only supported details not unsupported details, and fix the error that jews locate wrong.
5kings and 6chroniclesyears known to be false unreliable unless "numbers are not important" do not matter=x
honest people can and should reject such books as kings and chronicles because we know the total of years is false, so the books are unreliable/
josua x
judges x
samuel x
ruth
kings x
chronicles x
we can save a bit of ruth and attach it to the bits of josjua but the rest is problematic.
i recommend to keep isaia and jeremia who brought messages top correct previous trationsafter we identify not to acccept the tradition of the five "books of moses" and these five only bits of ruth and joshua are less problematic and useful in combating thoise religions who can still agre these quotes are from a good bokk yet challenge their faiths and help us to combat their lies so truth can win.
before reading the whole book and then a getting a horrid jolt at the endthat these cycles are wrong trust my experience and SKIP to the end.
in the story of dan the people worship a statue and continue a long time which refutes the cycles summarised which fill almost the whole book of judges in fact this issue is the same as the issue in ecclesiastes kohelet the "evil" do succeed long and if so the stories which say theuyy wer enslaved for sin is a lie and they could have continued like dan and any enslavement is not as the book claims since this issue is a faith issue how to perceive the wicked issue 2 actually is reason to reject this bad book as an unholy lie. in fact the book itself reveals that dan didnot have a cycle and the earlier cycles could have been like dan without enslavement so the enslavement isnot punishment requiring re3pentance as the book claimed so lengthily. another problem is that whjat appears in the book is story after story with long eras of peace yet if this is true than tis conflicts the generation is chronicles as well as the number of years in the book kings. scholars say "not consecutive but parallel" the 40 years of peace in the six stories are the same 40 years and the tragedy preceding the 40 years were simultaneous in different places cool commentary? why is it absent from the book?? jesus christ !! only influence from the book of kings causes them to say not consecutive! they deny what appears in the book the message that appears in the book is not parallel stories in the samne era and instead of eduiting at the the same time it seems to say one judeged THE NATION since the number of years conflicts othyer books perhaps we should accept judges and remove the conflicting book of kings with "only" 480 years? okay no kings.
still the cycles in judges are error considering the end of the book the story of dan so this book based on its contents has been revealed as a bad book of unholy lies. next should be ruth and the christians fixed thios tradition by placing ruth between samuel and kingsbut since we define goid as not weak samuel which describes god as powerless to remove the king he rejected this is a hereticla book seeprevious post samuel for details. also kings has the number 490 which if we respect truth and honesty and if numbers have meaning them it conflicts judges as mentioned the religious need to corrupt one or the other source and some corrupt kings while others ciorrupt judges.
one more issue is the time span between nebucadnezer and mesa some religious get excited that the story of mesa strengthens the bible some religious jews and christians emphasize this yet actually mesa REVEALS another lie.
we know the time span between:
*** mesa and nebuchadnezer and that is different from the total years counted in both kings and chronicles. god would know the true number so these two books kings and chronicles [counted as 4 by religion] are unholy lies not from god. after removing the relative-to-god heretical book of samuel and the inaccurate book of kings and chronicles what remains is:
ruth which jews have in a location far from king david which is a bad decision and should be moved yet even ruth has errors revealed when compared to josephus and only what is common with josephus story of ruth common with ruth is supported mutually, not the numerous details unsupported in each text. now we can summarize:
1joshua- the end "not sword" reveals most content lie=bad book so reject but rescue a bit.
2judges the end refutes the cycles of most of the book=x
3samuel god weak issue 3 see previous post=x
4ruth only supported details not unsupported details, and fix the error that jews locate wrong.
5kings and 6chroniclesyears known to be false unreliable unless "numbers are not important" do not matter=x
honest people can and should reject such books as kings and chronicles because we know the total of years is false, so the books are unreliable/
josua x
judges x
samuel x
ruth
kings x
chronicles x
we can save a bit of ruth and attach it to the bits of josjua but the rest is problematic.
i recommend to keep isaia and jeremia who brought messages top correct previous trationsafter we identify not to acccept the tradition of the five "books of moses" and these five only bits of ruth and joshua are less problematic and useful in combating thoise religions who can still agre these quotes are from a good bokk yet challenge their faiths and help us to combat their lies so truth can win.
is the book joshua reliable?
if we assume the book of jeremia is good, then its message corrects the tradition of sacrifices. since genesis claimed god enjoyed the sacrifices of noah and able=hebel, if so god fixed that tradition by saying in isaia i did not want sacrifices and blood and in addition to other problems in genesis see post about genesis.
similarly the books exodus, leviticus, numbers, deuteronomy, all claim god commanded sacrifice yet god sent a message to fix these tradition and correct the error "god didnot command so instead you eat" source jeremia 7 even the religions say jeremia is a good prophet so accept his fix.
after we identify the removal of the books ascribed to moses, 26 or 29-5,we analyze joshua.
JOSHUA
before reading the whole thing and getting a shock at the end of the book, trust my experience to skip to the end.
in the end of joshua in the story of the israelite nation- we see:
the word no "not with your sword" NOW YOU TELL ME ?? jesus christ !!
we would have studied numerous lies that seem to say they killed with sword, when joshua taught that this is false according to the book itself. this is an internal contradiction and the book is not reliable. one convenient detail is in joshua 5 where joshua claims they circumcised in preparation for the passover because GET THIS moses did not enforce circumcision WOW SO IT ISNOT AS IMPORTANT AS THE RELIGIOUS JEWS CLAIM. EVEN MOSES DID NOT ENFORCE circumcision so joshua cut them with a sword in preparation for a sacrifice.
that is worth keeping to save us from the liars claiming: circumcision is exagerated as important when in fact even their book says it can be resisted and was not important to do when moses was in charge.
similarly to preserve, after removing the books which lie that god commanded sacrifice, or wanted them yet sent a message to fix that tradition, no story remains for the source of the israelites so when rejecting joshua as a book that says both "no sword with stories of wars" as an unreliable book we must rescue out
***these two sections 1 in preparation for the passover sacrifice joshua did circumcise with a sword maybe genitals maybe not genitals, and cut because moses was loose about circumcision and did not enforce it.
2 the story of the roots of the israelite nation in chapter 24 needs to be moved to the beginning and the story of circumcision inserted in appropriate spot in a new book with only these two sections. and until THEY the religious leaders=they make this change and they will not fix nor change as they repeatedly publish, we who prefer honesty can and should avoid this book and the book-volume which contains this and other "bad" books as defined in previous posts. it suffices this post to preserve the roots of the israelite: jacob who is israel and his sons went to egypt and later exited to came to the land and lived on both sides of the jordan river.. they circumcised with a sword because when moses ruled them, they did not circumcise and now, as preparation for a sacrifice they circumcised themselves. this error was corrected later when god said: I didnot command sacrifices. the hornets chased away the inhabitants and you took empty houses not with your sword and not with your arrows." end book but it is short so attach to a good book=not those 5 books ascribed to moses as mentioned but the next book judges- assuming it is good but see next post!
similarly the books exodus, leviticus, numbers, deuteronomy, all claim god commanded sacrifice yet god sent a message to fix these tradition and correct the error "god didnot command so instead you eat" source jeremia 7 even the religions say jeremia is a good prophet so accept his fix.
after we identify the removal of the books ascribed to moses, 26 or 29-5,we analyze joshua.
JOSHUA
before reading the whole thing and getting a shock at the end of the book, trust my experience to skip to the end.
in the end of joshua in the story of the israelite nation- we see:
the word no "not with your sword" NOW YOU TELL ME ?? jesus christ !!
we would have studied numerous lies that seem to say they killed with sword, when joshua taught that this is false according to the book itself. this is an internal contradiction and the book is not reliable. one convenient detail is in joshua 5 where joshua claims they circumcised in preparation for the passover because GET THIS moses did not enforce circumcision WOW SO IT ISNOT AS IMPORTANT AS THE RELIGIOUS JEWS CLAIM. EVEN MOSES DID NOT ENFORCE circumcision so joshua cut them with a sword in preparation for a sacrifice.
that is worth keeping to save us from the liars claiming: circumcision is exagerated as important when in fact even their book says it can be resisted and was not important to do when moses was in charge.
similarly to preserve, after removing the books which lie that god commanded sacrifice, or wanted them yet sent a message to fix that tradition, no story remains for the source of the israelites so when rejecting joshua as a book that says both "no sword with stories of wars" as an unreliable book we must rescue out
***these two sections 1 in preparation for the passover sacrifice joshua did circumcise with a sword maybe genitals maybe not genitals, and cut because moses was loose about circumcision and did not enforce it.
2 the story of the roots of the israelite nation in chapter 24 needs to be moved to the beginning and the story of circumcision inserted in appropriate spot in a new book with only these two sections. and until THEY the religious leaders=they make this change and they will not fix nor change as they repeatedly publish, we who prefer honesty can and should avoid this book and the book-volume which contains this and other "bad" books as defined in previous posts. it suffices this post to preserve the roots of the israelite: jacob who is israel and his sons went to egypt and later exited to came to the land and lived on both sides of the jordan river.. they circumcised with a sword because when moses ruled them, they did not circumcise and now, as preparation for a sacrifice they circumcised themselves. this error was corrected later when god said: I didnot command sacrifices. the hornets chased away the inhabitants and you took empty houses not with your sword and not with your arrows." end book but it is short so attach to a good book=not those 5 books ascribed to moses as mentioned but the next book judges- assuming it is good but see next post!
Tuesday, March 7, 2017
identify
continuing from the previous post [establish=introduction] we have several options: one is to say "the book-volume which christians give out as whole, contains problems and until they produce a different book that does not need a commentary to deny its messages, we can reject the package" and similarly for the book-volume that jews publish as the scriptures.
we can identify some of the problems and after they remove the problems, reassess if it is less problematic but they insist not to change, so this will never occur and we can+ and if we respect truth should: reject the package because they have not offered a good book and THEY refuse to fix and edit and make a new book without the problems. what if they would say this is an anthology of conflicting ideas and each idea is valid hahaha they would never do that.
after a temple existed and the tradition existed to kill animals, for burn them, two prophets considered good EVEN BY jews and christians, brought a message "god said i did not command and did not want blood of animals" this message came to fix a tradition and IDENTIFY what was wrong in the tradition.
we can base on the book: the truth that god does not want and "did"=a past verb=did not want the blood of animals and "did not command sacrifices" with the word no... of course the religious insist no does not mean no, but we honest people prefer honesty and the word no has meaning, especially in the context "you eat it" because i did not command so the message cam to fix a tradtion and to correct an error.
we have established an idea on the book and preferred the book which came to fix an existing tradtion defining it as wrong.
we can add two more foundations: each from a book AGREED to be good books even by those who would kill me for my heresy if they only could: as we know only secular morality prevents christians from burning heretics and jews from killing with rocks... jesus christ !!
1 in truth "God did not command to kill animals for hin and instead humans should eat them" jeremia 7 and that influences not to corrupt the similar message in isaia 1 "God did not want blood of animals" note; not wanting blood refutes the idea jesus blood cleans sin... oh well truth is too important to allow for lies. any book claiming god did command needs to be identified because god sent a message to fix such traditions.
2 in truth the faith about the "bad guys" who are wicked is "wicked will succeed to do bad for a long time while the good will be trapped by his goodness." kohelet called Ecclesiastes.
3 god is not weak because that is what "god" means he is immortal. if so we can be certain: if jesus died he was not divine and most christians believe the mystery that jesus both was god [john] and died [all gospels and paul] so that faith is not for honest people.
now we can identify which books "in the tradition which we received" need to be fixed: I list 29 and label which "only appear' to be inconsistent. which suffices after they claim consistency in their "convince-books". the number refers to the faith of the three faiths above we will see fifteen 15 could and should be removed.
genesis 1 god "enjoyed" sacrifices? yet did not want and other problems
exodus 1
leviticus 1
numbers 1
deuteronomy 1
joshua
judges
samuel 3
kings
chronicles
ruth
isaia F
jeremia F
ezekiel 1
shorts 1
psalms 2
proverbs 2
job different problem
song
skip one
ecclesestis F
esther
daniel
ezra
nehemia
matthew jesus died? if he is divine this is a lie=3
mark 3
luke 3
john 3
letters of paul in one book. 3
from 29 we can avoid spending much time on the details of fifteen books each with many other reasons to reject but we will not spend time on them because they are not identical to the 3 fundamentals established on books which even the religious agree are good books. that leaves 14 to analyze in future posts.
we can identify some of the problems and after they remove the problems, reassess if it is less problematic but they insist not to change, so this will never occur and we can+ and if we respect truth should: reject the package because they have not offered a good book and THEY refuse to fix and edit and make a new book without the problems. what if they would say this is an anthology of conflicting ideas and each idea is valid hahaha they would never do that.
after a temple existed and the tradition existed to kill animals, for burn them, two prophets considered good EVEN BY jews and christians, brought a message "god said i did not command and did not want blood of animals" this message came to fix a tradition and IDENTIFY what was wrong in the tradition.
we can base on the book: the truth that god does not want and "did"=a past verb=did not want the blood of animals and "did not command sacrifices" with the word no... of course the religious insist no does not mean no, but we honest people prefer honesty and the word no has meaning, especially in the context "you eat it" because i did not command so the message cam to fix a tradtion and to correct an error.
we have established an idea on the book and preferred the book which came to fix an existing tradtion defining it as wrong.
we can add two more foundations: each from a book AGREED to be good books even by those who would kill me for my heresy if they only could: as we know only secular morality prevents christians from burning heretics and jews from killing with rocks... jesus christ !!
1 in truth "God did not command to kill animals for hin and instead humans should eat them" jeremia 7 and that influences not to corrupt the similar message in isaia 1 "God did not want blood of animals" note; not wanting blood refutes the idea jesus blood cleans sin... oh well truth is too important to allow for lies. any book claiming god did command needs to be identified because god sent a message to fix such traditions.
2 in truth the faith about the "bad guys" who are wicked is "wicked will succeed to do bad for a long time while the good will be trapped by his goodness." kohelet called Ecclesiastes.
3 god is not weak because that is what "god" means he is immortal. if so we can be certain: if jesus died he was not divine and most christians believe the mystery that jesus both was god [john] and died [all gospels and paul] so that faith is not for honest people.
now we can identify which books "in the tradition which we received" need to be fixed: I list 29 and label which "only appear' to be inconsistent. which suffices after they claim consistency in their "convince-books". the number refers to the faith of the three faiths above we will see fifteen 15 could and should be removed.
genesis 1 god "enjoyed" sacrifices? yet did not want and other problems
exodus 1
leviticus 1
numbers 1
deuteronomy 1
joshua
judges
samuel 3
kings
chronicles
ruth
isaia F
jeremia F
ezekiel 1
shorts 1
psalms 2
proverbs 2
job different problem
song
skip one
ecclesestis F
esther
daniel
ezra
nehemia
matthew jesus died? if he is divine this is a lie=3
mark 3
luke 3
john 3
letters of paul in one book. 3
from 29 we can avoid spending much time on the details of fifteen books each with many other reasons to reject but we will not spend time on them because they are not identical to the 3 fundamentals established on books which even the religious agree are good books. that leaves 14 to analyze in future posts.
establishing a faith
In contrast to existing religions which teach "fundamentals" and then "interpret" the holy book according to those ideas and IN SUBMISSION to those ideas, resulting in claim "that quote which conflicts the idea is a misinterpretation, it only appears to conflict" we must, for the "love of God" and truth, reveal the dishonesty.
for example if a fundamental faith is: "god is one" then that is how to interpret the book. what happens when the book uses a plural verb? that is impossible?? jesus !!
if we did not have the "prejudice" we would:
***establish the faith on the book yet because existing religions insist the book submits YES SUBMITS, to the idea, resulting the plural verb in the bible is "a misinterpretation" because plural really means something else, yet this is not honest, because if we did not have the prejudice we would say: the fact that the book has a plural verb is a basis to embrace a polytheistic faith=establishing the faith on the holy-book. the prejudice is revealed. resulting even in claiming the book means a message different from "the message that appears" in the holy book.
after establishing that the plural verb which abraham truly said, if we resist lies and respect honesty enough not to corrupt the message in the book, said "they led me to wander" as more than one god the question is: if so why does the rest of the same book have singular verbs for god and why does other book insist on one god? clearly this is:
*** a lack of consistency which causes religious to bend one source to "mean" a message different than what appears. even after the corruption, written in some commentary, what appears is "misleading" and certainly not consistent, so what?
yet religious christians and jews claim "evidence of the holiness of the bible is consistency" only after corrupting one source or the other can they claim both messages are the same idea, because the message that appears is NOT consistent refuting this claim of consistency and revealing how prejudice can cause someone to say ignore what the book actually said.
IINSTEAD LET US ESTABLISH THE FAITH ON THE BOOK.
which source wins? if we choose monotheist then genesis is out because it describes god with a plural verb so that cannot be a truth but an unholy compare psalms speaks of the nation of "abrahams god" then we need to know abrahams god and that was a plural verb.
christians say no problem: god is one which is also many called trinity or tri-une but if jesus died he certainly was not truly a god. consider even a human whose body can die has "an immortal soul" yet the christian god is even weaker and is mortal and DID die as they insist, so even if we assume trinity is valid, jesus is not part because he was mortal and could die and did die if he truly returned from DEAD. clearly honest people like us, we must reject and not accept the faith of christians because god is immortal at least as immortal as a human soul if not STRONGER... jesus christ !!
similarly honesty results in either rejecting genesis or rejecting monotheist judaism.
since their are sevral other reasons to reject genesis we can reject it from the reliable books - see reason in post about 400 years
http://thinkforyourselfn8.blogspot.co.il/2017/03/is-book-genesis-trustworthy.html
after that book is discovered, with my assistance to quickly locate the evidence such as 400 years and the plural verbs we notice that genesis is not reliable hence the challenge to monotheism has been removed.
we can establish three foundations on the book as described in the next post and remove the conflicting books.
for example if a fundamental faith is: "god is one" then that is how to interpret the book. what happens when the book uses a plural verb? that is impossible?? jesus !!
if we did not have the "prejudice" we would:
***establish the faith on the book yet because existing religions insist the book submits YES SUBMITS, to the idea, resulting the plural verb in the bible is "a misinterpretation" because plural really means something else, yet this is not honest, because if we did not have the prejudice we would say: the fact that the book has a plural verb is a basis to embrace a polytheistic faith=establishing the faith on the holy-book. the prejudice is revealed. resulting even in claiming the book means a message different from "the message that appears" in the holy book.
after establishing that the plural verb which abraham truly said, if we resist lies and respect honesty enough not to corrupt the message in the book, said "they led me to wander" as more than one god the question is: if so why does the rest of the same book have singular verbs for god and why does other book insist on one god? clearly this is:
*** a lack of consistency which causes religious to bend one source to "mean" a message different than what appears. even after the corruption, written in some commentary, what appears is "misleading" and certainly not consistent, so what?
yet religious christians and jews claim "evidence of the holiness of the bible is consistency" only after corrupting one source or the other can they claim both messages are the same idea, because the message that appears is NOT consistent refuting this claim of consistency and revealing how prejudice can cause someone to say ignore what the book actually said.
IINSTEAD LET US ESTABLISH THE FAITH ON THE BOOK.
which source wins? if we choose monotheist then genesis is out because it describes god with a plural verb so that cannot be a truth but an unholy compare psalms speaks of the nation of "abrahams god" then we need to know abrahams god and that was a plural verb.
christians say no problem: god is one which is also many called trinity or tri-une but if jesus died he certainly was not truly a god. consider even a human whose body can die has "an immortal soul" yet the christian god is even weaker and is mortal and DID die as they insist, so even if we assume trinity is valid, jesus is not part because he was mortal and could die and did die if he truly returned from DEAD. clearly honest people like us, we must reject and not accept the faith of christians because god is immortal at least as immortal as a human soul if not STRONGER... jesus christ !!
similarly honesty results in either rejecting genesis or rejecting monotheist judaism.
since their are sevral other reasons to reject genesis we can reject it from the reliable books - see reason in post about 400 years
http://thinkforyourselfn8.blogspot.co.il/2017/03/is-book-genesis-trustworthy.html
after that book is discovered, with my assistance to quickly locate the evidence such as 400 years and the plural verbs we notice that genesis is not reliable hence the challenge to monotheism has been removed.
we can establish three foundations on the book as described in the next post and remove the conflicting books.
is the book samuel heresy?
there are a list of biblical books called "historical" and if the teachers would call them fiction or fable that would be the prejudice the contents are false=just as bad calling them historical is a prejudice.
assume that joshua and judges are good books yet samuel-book describes a god who revealed that he rejected saul while saul continues to rule as king. as though god is powerless. assuming that god exists, then these contents are heresy and the decision to include this book in the list of holy books is an error, based on the content of the book. treat it like other heretical books which are too old to be worth reading.
assuming the other books are not bad, some of the stories are repeated in chronicles so not having samuel still will have some stories in cronicles.
this question itself would get me burned by christians and stoned to death by jews throwing rockss if not for secualr morality. "how dare you doubt the book. if it from god it must be true so light that fire" jesus !! the people are the ones directing me to the book- they could possibly be correct and also error so based on the content we see an error.
catholics have many books which jews and protestants do not have in the holy-list. they quote the book written by paul ! that "all scripture" is holy evidence everything they include in the volume but paul was not reffering to what would be added after paul! protestant sadmit not everything well also not everything they accepted either- christ !! in fact eusebius and origen had lists with less letters/epistles and the list should not include samuel either we must resist the bad of the tradition.
we have a book called ezra yet books always a name which matches a word in the begining samuel has the birth of samuel at the beginning yet the book with the name "ezra" at the beginning and whose name is ezra, was not preserved. calling a different book ezra is not honesty. and the ancient jewish list does not include the book nehemia in the same way the lists of origen and eusebius didnot have certain books added. so it is an error to include the book beginning with cyrus called ezra as well as nehemia nd samuel. these are ancient books that can be treated like other ancient heresies. instead study how to develop today's technology and move forward!
assume that joshua and judges are good books yet samuel-book describes a god who revealed that he rejected saul while saul continues to rule as king. as though god is powerless. assuming that god exists, then these contents are heresy and the decision to include this book in the list of holy books is an error, based on the content of the book. treat it like other heretical books which are too old to be worth reading.
assuming the other books are not bad, some of the stories are repeated in chronicles so not having samuel still will have some stories in cronicles.
this question itself would get me burned by christians and stoned to death by jews throwing rockss if not for secualr morality. "how dare you doubt the book. if it from god it must be true so light that fire" jesus !! the people are the ones directing me to the book- they could possibly be correct and also error so based on the content we see an error.
catholics have many books which jews and protestants do not have in the holy-list. they quote the book written by paul ! that "all scripture" is holy evidence everything they include in the volume but paul was not reffering to what would be added after paul! protestant sadmit not everything well also not everything they accepted either- christ !! in fact eusebius and origen had lists with less letters/epistles and the list should not include samuel either we must resist the bad of the tradition.
we have a book called ezra yet books always a name which matches a word in the begining samuel has the birth of samuel at the beginning yet the book with the name "ezra" at the beginning and whose name is ezra, was not preserved. calling a different book ezra is not honesty. and the ancient jewish list does not include the book nehemia in the same way the lists of origen and eusebius didnot have certain books added. so it is an error to include the book beginning with cyrus called ezra as well as nehemia nd samuel. these are ancient books that can be treated like other ancient heresies. instead study how to develop today's technology and move forward!
is the book genesis trustworthy?
children are taught "we must believe" a book is holy and true but what if a book is NOT worthy of our trust. shouting and criticism and even hitting the heretical child.
is the book genesis worthy, truly worthy of our trust?
if we begin with faith that is a prejudice so we must analyze that it is possible either way perhaps trustworthy perhaps not, and without assuming it is holy nor bad.
judge based on content.
if we are aware that science teaches that stars and the sun existed for "more than" ten thousand years and are also older than planet earth then immediately when we read the first chapter we meet the challenge which religious people are required to alter and corrupt different from the message which appears.
religious apply their prejudice that it must be true "a day is not a day and the order is not important."
first the ground and plants and a billion years later the sun was made. well if you know science that is the wrong order. how could god not know? unless the book is about a god who does not know or the book is not from god because if we assume god exists he would know the order.
or as some religious do: ridicule the wrong conclusions of those lying scientists why should we believe them anyway!
if we do not corrupt the contents the book tells that god told abraham "they will suffer four hundred years" since "god does not lie that must be wjhat happened yet two traditions of those who suffered say it was only 205 or 210 years this book describes a god who did not know the future and that is reason enough that it COULD HAVE been not included in the list of holy books see post "how many"
http://thinkforyourselfn8.blogspot.co.il/2017/03/how-many-holy-books.html
the decision: to include book genesis in the list is problematic.
some will insist anything outside the bible is false and 400 is the truth yet the bible itself in exodus shows it is less with the genrations in exodus which caused some jewish rabbis to claim 210 just 5 years "off" bad from the tradition in josephus.
if exodus is true than genesis is false. yet even exodus is bad claiming 430 years years. one of them must be removed but whch book?
religious insist on adding words to the idea which is not in text. the word in singular land is really more than one kingdom the fact that the word torture is near the number can be ignored in order to claim the bible is consistent yet without the prejudice we are not compelled to corrupt the text we can comprehend what is there and see it is not "consistent" and some detail is false and the books are unreliable. if exodus is a bad book we can keep genesis and say 400 after all exodus claims god wants sacrifice and isaia brougt a message god did not want it and similarly jeremiah said i didnot command...
so exodus is not trustworthy it is no real challebnge to genesis leaving only the problem of the order of sun and stars and jurassic order different from reptiles and mmammals.
yet they did not remove exodus from the list and said 430 which the verse said "in egypt" includes not in egypt this is baseless and they did not add the words to the text in editing so that message is true but if so the generation list is not truly the son which totals less years and we do not know when the son was born only that the total is less and josephus preserved two hundred 5. so I propose removing all problematic books. those who "recommend" genesis I challenge them based on the problematic content. if they had their way they would kill me for my evil words demanding honesty-
in other generations christians and jews both killed heretics.
only secular morality prevents such physical violence so they hide information which threatens them in order to preserve ignorance so people choose what the religious leaders want.
in summary we have reason based on the content s long as we resist the prejudice to corrupt the content to defend outside prejudices, if exodus is true than god did not know the future so genesis is a heretical book describing a good who did not know and who specifically instructed to worship another god he did not say worship "me" instead "god said build to the god which appeared to you" instructing to worship another in addition to plural verbs for god all these separately are enough to declare genesis heresy book and realize that the decision to include it was wrong. similarly exodus which has sacrifice when later god said i did not command warning not to continue nor accept the tradition and similar books with animal sacrifices attributed to god
hence we have reason to reject the volume that has these bad books together until THEY sort out wcich book to remove i recommend remove all both genesis 400 and exodus as well as leviticus numbers deuteronomy because all these books have sacrifices and the later prophets warned not to continue that tradition because it is false "god did not wany god did not command so books claiming he did lied.
now we can analyze the historical books, joshua judges samuel kings oops also ruth and chronicles and ezra nehemia. they are storied but calling them "historical" creates a prejudice something the religious leaders wopuld kill us for denying of they only could...
is the book genesis worthy, truly worthy of our trust?
if we begin with faith that is a prejudice so we must analyze that it is possible either way perhaps trustworthy perhaps not, and without assuming it is holy nor bad.
judge based on content.
if we are aware that science teaches that stars and the sun existed for "more than" ten thousand years and are also older than planet earth then immediately when we read the first chapter we meet the challenge which religious people are required to alter and corrupt different from the message which appears.
religious apply their prejudice that it must be true "a day is not a day and the order is not important."
first the ground and plants and a billion years later the sun was made. well if you know science that is the wrong order. how could god not know? unless the book is about a god who does not know or the book is not from god because if we assume god exists he would know the order.
or as some religious do: ridicule the wrong conclusions of those lying scientists why should we believe them anyway!
if we do not corrupt the contents the book tells that god told abraham "they will suffer four hundred years" since "god does not lie that must be wjhat happened yet two traditions of those who suffered say it was only 205 or 210 years this book describes a god who did not know the future and that is reason enough that it COULD HAVE been not included in the list of holy books see post "how many"
http://thinkforyourselfn8.blogspot.co.il/2017/03/how-many-holy-books.html
the decision: to include book genesis in the list is problematic.
some will insist anything outside the bible is false and 400 is the truth yet the bible itself in exodus shows it is less with the genrations in exodus which caused some jewish rabbis to claim 210 just 5 years "off" bad from the tradition in josephus.
if exodus is true than genesis is false. yet even exodus is bad claiming 430 years years. one of them must be removed but whch book?
religious insist on adding words to the idea which is not in text. the word in singular land is really more than one kingdom the fact that the word torture is near the number can be ignored in order to claim the bible is consistent yet without the prejudice we are not compelled to corrupt the text we can comprehend what is there and see it is not "consistent" and some detail is false and the books are unreliable. if exodus is a bad book we can keep genesis and say 400 after all exodus claims god wants sacrifice and isaia brougt a message god did not want it and similarly jeremiah said i didnot command...
so exodus is not trustworthy it is no real challebnge to genesis leaving only the problem of the order of sun and stars and jurassic order different from reptiles and mmammals.
yet they did not remove exodus from the list and said 430 which the verse said "in egypt" includes not in egypt this is baseless and they did not add the words to the text in editing so that message is true but if so the generation list is not truly the son which totals less years and we do not know when the son was born only that the total is less and josephus preserved two hundred 5. so I propose removing all problematic books. those who "recommend" genesis I challenge them based on the problematic content. if they had their way they would kill me for my evil words demanding honesty-
in other generations christians and jews both killed heretics.
only secular morality prevents such physical violence so they hide information which threatens them in order to preserve ignorance so people choose what the religious leaders want.
in summary we have reason based on the content s long as we resist the prejudice to corrupt the content to defend outside prejudices, if exodus is true than god did not know the future so genesis is a heretical book describing a good who did not know and who specifically instructed to worship another god he did not say worship "me" instead "god said build to the god which appeared to you" instructing to worship another in addition to plural verbs for god all these separately are enough to declare genesis heresy book and realize that the decision to include it was wrong. similarly exodus which has sacrifice when later god said i did not command warning not to continue nor accept the tradition and similar books with animal sacrifices attributed to god
hence we have reason to reject the volume that has these bad books together until THEY sort out wcich book to remove i recommend remove all both genesis 400 and exodus as well as leviticus numbers deuteronomy because all these books have sacrifices and the later prophets warned not to continue that tradition because it is false "god did not wany god did not command so books claiming he did lied.
now we can analyze the historical books, joshua judges samuel kings oops also ruth and chronicles and ezra nehemia. they are storied but calling them "historical" creates a prejudice something the religious leaders wopuld kill us for denying of they only could...
what is so bad about circumcision?
if we assume god exists and book named genesis is true: then god wants something done to 8 day old babies. does the book actually say cut the genital? or is it interpretation? either way we must not slash at anyone else's body. baby is born healthy, so no need nor justification to cut off any healthy stuff.
but what if god said then we must? jesus christ !! how can you talk that way about slashing at a baby's body and specifically at the genital - christ !!
(what if genesis is an unreliable book? see next post!)
I like this rhyme on this subject
http://tomsawyerssongs.blogspot.co.il/2014/06/the-baby-song.html
the baby somg.
we should not cut off any healthy stuff.
but what if god said then we must? jesus christ !! how can you talk that way about slashing at a baby's body and specifically at the genital - christ !!
(what if genesis is an unreliable book? see next post!)
I like this rhyme on this subject
http://tomsawyerssongs.blogspot.co.il/2014/06/the-baby-song.html
the baby somg.
we should not cut off any healthy stuff.
How Many Holy Books?
we were born into a world with numerous religions. If english is your home-language you are likely more familiar with christianity than other faiths and may find eastern religions EXOTIC and tempting.
most families teach their kids which religion is TRUTH as the parents see it, saying: "believe there is a god and santa claus and tooth fairy" and later admit that is not truth.
Jews publish a book=volume with twenty-six 26 books inside insisting that they are 24 books and offer several "solutions" to this problem. christianity has more letters/epistles and catholic has more total.
if we do not know what is inside, it is easy to lie=accept the lie "it is so consistent it must be from god" or "I heard there are many contradictions and hence not a basis for any faith" or "I know one quote that is the truth and I do not care if you claim another quote conflicts."
clearly the bible says you must have faith to the end or clearly the bible says if you abandon faith you are still saved?
prejudices like these can cause people to interpret both ways. when a christian insists that the third hour and the ninth hour mean "the same thing" jesus !! how can that be? that is required by the prejudice of consistency and if they did not have the prejudice they would say two versions were included. some claim it was between the two times not 6 nor 9! so both are false numbers for the hour. is that a faith based on a holy book? only if numbers and truth are not important.
one approach is the one which protestant leader responded to the traditional catholic book list: take out the bad ones. he could have said compile a new list only the best are good enough to get the "holy" label. if ancient lists such as origen and eusebius had fewer books then do not add more books to the holy list.
if we do not corrupt content, then "what appears" in some books, especially the word "no" helps us identify the problems in other books.
the order is influential. if first we teach a child that god wants blood sacrifice- then IF they ever read jeremiah and isaia...
***which is not likely,
they will interpret it in a way that the first idea is true. they will claim and be taught that the "message" in those prophets "different" from words and from the message which appears. as the rapist said "no does not really mean no."
what if we reverse the order?
god said no: I did not desire blood+I did not command sacrifices, unbelievable, these are messages which do appear in isiah and jeremiah- if we do not corrupt the message.
if assume god exists then god is informing us to avoid certain books which CLAIM the opposite. having both groups in the same volume is very STUPID. if i believe the message in jeremia then that warns me not to accept the books claimed to be from mose- which claim "god did".
which should a person choose? a. god did and jeremia said a false message which needs to be corrupted different from what appears?
they could take jeremia out of the list! 25 books, but still isaia has a similar message.
**b. if we assume god exists he sent two prophets to convince people he did not [past] want blood sacrifice. this idea is a threat to both rabbinic judaism and all christianity.
If i were god and people said in my name "god did not want sacrifice" when I did, i would send a prophet after them and warn ignore isaia and keep my temple with miracles because i want it.
or the opposite
***if people are killing animals and i do not want it... what would god do? send a message? he sent isia and jeremia who both said, "i did not command nor desire" that is what happened they brought this later message to avoid the earlier one.
if god exists then accept the later message and stop rebelling!
what if Isaia brought the correct message to resist the books "of moses" that is why god bothered to send two. prejudice influences people that the fundamentals of faith must guide the interpretation but what if the book would define the faith!
without prejudice either way is possible and EITHER WAY THERE SHOULD BE LESS of those so-called holy books.
if I assume god exists then god showed urgency to send a common message to two prophets and hence any book that has sacrifices such as exodus, a book with a sacrifice claimed to be commanded by god and similarly leviticus and numbers and deuteronomy are all FOREWARNED BY GOD HIMSELF in isaia and jeremia to avoid. can you then stack and say the majority of prophets outnumber isaia?
if it is false take isaia off the list but isaia is in the list so the message is a good message if so better to avoid=fix the earlier tradition and any other conflicting book is not godly divine but an unholy lie. what is false? the later message warned do not accept the traditional faith you were born into. god tried to fix a problem but religious leaders insist on altering the message to preserve a tradition which god tried to correct and fix.
other issues such as order and other bad books- not with the prejudice "they are holy nor bad" but based on recognizing "what appears" in the book without corrupting the message- will follow.
most families teach their kids which religion is TRUTH as the parents see it, saying: "believe there is a god and santa claus and tooth fairy" and later admit that is not truth.
Jews publish a book=volume with twenty-six 26 books inside insisting that they are 24 books and offer several "solutions" to this problem. christianity has more letters/epistles and catholic has more total.
if we do not know what is inside, it is easy to lie=accept the lie "it is so consistent it must be from god" or "I heard there are many contradictions and hence not a basis for any faith" or "I know one quote that is the truth and I do not care if you claim another quote conflicts."
clearly the bible says you must have faith to the end or clearly the bible says if you abandon faith you are still saved?
prejudices like these can cause people to interpret both ways. when a christian insists that the third hour and the ninth hour mean "the same thing" jesus !! how can that be? that is required by the prejudice of consistency and if they did not have the prejudice they would say two versions were included. some claim it was between the two times not 6 nor 9! so both are false numbers for the hour. is that a faith based on a holy book? only if numbers and truth are not important.
one approach is the one which protestant leader responded to the traditional catholic book list: take out the bad ones. he could have said compile a new list only the best are good enough to get the "holy" label. if ancient lists such as origen and eusebius had fewer books then do not add more books to the holy list.
if we do not corrupt content, then "what appears" in some books, especially the word "no" helps us identify the problems in other books.
the order is influential. if first we teach a child that god wants blood sacrifice- then IF they ever read jeremiah and isaia...
***which is not likely,
they will interpret it in a way that the first idea is true. they will claim and be taught that the "message" in those prophets "different" from words and from the message which appears. as the rapist said "no does not really mean no."
what if we reverse the order?
god said no: I did not desire blood+I did not command sacrifices, unbelievable, these are messages which do appear in isiah and jeremiah- if we do not corrupt the message.
if assume god exists then god is informing us to avoid certain books which CLAIM the opposite. having both groups in the same volume is very STUPID. if i believe the message in jeremia then that warns me not to accept the books claimed to be from mose- which claim "god did".
which should a person choose? a. god did and jeremia said a false message which needs to be corrupted different from what appears?
they could take jeremia out of the list! 25 books, but still isaia has a similar message.
**b. if we assume god exists he sent two prophets to convince people he did not [past] want blood sacrifice. this idea is a threat to both rabbinic judaism and all christianity.
If i were god and people said in my name "god did not want sacrifice" when I did, i would send a prophet after them and warn ignore isaia and keep my temple with miracles because i want it.
or the opposite
***if people are killing animals and i do not want it... what would god do? send a message? he sent isia and jeremia who both said, "i did not command nor desire" that is what happened they brought this later message to avoid the earlier one.
if god exists then accept the later message and stop rebelling!
what if Isaia brought the correct message to resist the books "of moses" that is why god bothered to send two. prejudice influences people that the fundamentals of faith must guide the interpretation but what if the book would define the faith!
without prejudice either way is possible and EITHER WAY THERE SHOULD BE LESS of those so-called holy books.
if I assume god exists then god showed urgency to send a common message to two prophets and hence any book that has sacrifices such as exodus, a book with a sacrifice claimed to be commanded by god and similarly leviticus and numbers and deuteronomy are all FOREWARNED BY GOD HIMSELF in isaia and jeremia to avoid. can you then stack and say the majority of prophets outnumber isaia?
if it is false take isaia off the list but isaia is in the list so the message is a good message if so better to avoid=fix the earlier tradition and any other conflicting book is not godly divine but an unholy lie. what is false? the later message warned do not accept the traditional faith you were born into. god tried to fix a problem but religious leaders insist on altering the message to preserve a tradition which god tried to correct and fix.
other issues such as order and other bad books- not with the prejudice "they are holy nor bad" but based on recognizing "what appears" in the book without corrupting the message- will follow.
study and relax
I like to analyze stuff. however it is important to include fun. sometimes parents deny even regular fun such as a two hour movie, by complaining "do not watch TV all day"- saying "all day" is a mean lie. set fair limits and do not be mean by trivial interruptions.
i enjoy several cartoons and...
dismiss the claim: animation is only for kids. some are childish and some I enjoy and also recommend for example: interesting and funny "fairly odd parents" and intensely planned "Phineas and Ferb"=PF as well as "kim possible"=kp. today TV showed on Disney channel "KP animal attraction" NOTE: what number episode? is in conflict.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0619772/?ref_=ttep_ep18
I love the excitement: how will Kim ruin the villainous plans of using the freeze-device. I also enjoyed the reactions to the social fad of color+animal categories.
Great quote: "What could be bigger than MINI ..."
I also enjoy the challenge oF writing rhymes and will try to publish some RHYMES, which I hope to compose they are short and do not pretend to be fancy for example "roses are red and stargates have blue, happy valentines day to you" because I enjoyed sci-fi series+es. or kirk wore red and sky is blue etc. + light-sabers are red and earth looks blue happy valentine day to you.
enjoy fun and discuss analyses!
link to episode info:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0619772/?ref_=ttep_ep18
i enjoy several cartoons and...
dismiss the claim: animation is only for kids. some are childish and some I enjoy and also recommend for example: interesting and funny "fairly odd parents" and intensely planned "Phineas and Ferb"=PF as well as "kim possible"=kp. today TV showed on Disney channel "KP animal attraction" NOTE: what number episode? is in conflict.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0619772/?ref_=ttep_ep18
I love the excitement: how will Kim ruin the villainous plans of using the freeze-device. I also enjoyed the reactions to the social fad of color+animal categories.
Great quote: "What could be bigger than MINI ..."
I also enjoy the challenge oF writing rhymes and will try to publish some RHYMES, which I hope to compose they are short and do not pretend to be fancy for example "roses are red and stargates have blue, happy valentines day to you" because I enjoyed sci-fi series+es. or kirk wore red and sky is blue etc. + light-sabers are red and earth looks blue happy valentine day to you.
enjoy fun and discuss analyses!
link to episode info:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0619772/?ref_=ttep_ep18
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