Wednesday, February 7, 2018

baptism but water??

christian missionaries are active on college campuses. the fact that they use tricks to mislead beginners is reason enuf to ignore everything they say even the true stuff. we simply cannot trust them.
everybody knows about christian water baptism. why? why is that so famous?
why is the baptism in the book of acts less famous??
Act 1:5: "For John truly baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost not many days hence" so many indications from the word "but" to the word baptised with holy spirit it is so clear that this is a different baptism ... yet i personally met two different LIARS who said "every baptism is water" every?? what about the book of acts? in fact knowing this quote in the book of acts defines the teaching at the end of matthew jesus said go out and baptise... the beginner is mesled by the famous water baptism... DID JESUS SAY WATER?? of course not. well what else could it be the beginner does not know the book of acts yet... that is how the missionaries use tricks and say do water baptism.
the fact that acts begins with baptism yes spirit and different from water with the word "but" not baptism of spirit when water but different maybe after the water or maybe without water... maybe independent of water...
the fact that spirit baptism exists generates a doubt which did jesus men when he said "baptise" did he mean water or spirit?
first corinthians reveals the answer " 1Co 1:14  I thank God that I baptized none of you, but Crispus and Gaius; 15 Lest any should say that I had baptized in mine own name. 16 And I baptized also the household of Stephanas: besides, I know not whether I baptized any other. 17 For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect."
they did baptise with water like john did before jesus but then people were misled what is important so paul corrected them in verse 17 NOT BAPTISM" this is emphasized again in ehesians there is one god and one baptism... if one is not literaly one then how many gods are there? if there would be no baptism of spirit there would be one baptism of water but that is the lie used on beginners... who only know of one... only later they hear about the spirit baptism... but then that would be two baptisms is that true? not according to the christian holy book one baptism. and which one jesus never said water... that was the jewish one.
until missionaries lead with acts 1.5 we need to challenge them and point at to them acts chapter 1 verse 5 and first cor. 1.17 not baptise in action. if they lie 2 baptisms we will say first which could be the spirit and also ephesians 4.5 one not more.
until they teach acts 1.5 first we cannot trus them
in fact the logical order is to teach the topic of baptism by teaching ephesians first. one baptism. next the definition in acts to distinguish from the jewish water dip which early christians repeated because they were jews jew first.
the trick is "not doing the things early christians did" but finding the direcftions in the book it is a perfect match for paul to say in cor. 1.17 not to batise because the water is jewish and the one baptism is the spirit which occurs the moent a person speaks confesses faith before god... as one theologian published... the spirit baptism cannot be any delay because of the word all, so all believers were already baptised...
evidence from first cor. 12.13 "1Co 12:13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit. can that mean "limited only to those after water baptism" that would not be all believers. what if somebody believes at night are they not baptised because not yet water? that is not all and violates both sources in corinthians "not to baptise" that was the pre-jesus jewish custom. baptism is truly defined by acts chapter one.

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