Thursday, June 8, 2023

war and borders

when i was a young brat i soaked in, without anybody specifying, just the way people talked about borders... that war "captured" land.

i did not connect it to a certain bit of religious propaganda kuz i was too young. does anyone recall the old dice game called risk? capturing land! it is mine and i get resources and benefits. but that is just a game.

then i started to hear the complaints about the "occupation in the west bank" and that did not match... war captured... could it be that they were isolating jew different that would be bad discrimination and jew hatred?

in order to measure i needed to get info about when people are not biased. so i thought about the different wars, knan mecca and ottoman and the familiar biasses in society and found one that i thought was a good sample.

i went to my pal in university who i know was openly muslim and chose to ask about mecca or ottoman. i chose to ask about the muslim loss in a specified religious holy war juhad that ottoman had declared in the "14-18 war" called world war one due to the loss of german colonies in the pacific ocean... which coulda baan done in the franco prussian war 1870's i think prussia had some pacific colonies but france did not bother using its navy nor pacific colonies to battle prussian colonies that can be a world war.

anyway when new zealand and australia and japan conquered german colonies they stopped being german and became whichever captured... so i asked the muslim "when the british battled ottoman and ottoman surrendered, it stopped being ottoman, right?" giving him a chance to say no islam is different wfor whateer reason... luckily as an enlightened university student he said "british captured it. what is your point?"

well i was not gonna say checkmate equaly for west bank... i would lose a pal.

equally same as mecca was "stolen" by muhamed and justifiably ruled and owned to "donate to alla" for religious use, same british victory against ottoman turks, despite brit by jordan was NOT defensive war in contrast to israel against jordan in year 1967 when the border changed when jordan surrendered, still conquerer gets so equaly if not discriminate against jews... same for israel, modern israel getting west bank and ancient israel conquering canaan regardless of what color on maps and border lines due to fear of oil embargo.

the alternative would be to say a straw man would say, "no brits took it by force they stole it unjustly and occupied it" echo all the complaints toward israel at the brits... and equaly at mecca and muslim conquest and even id so, modern israel was a defensive war as judge stephens a european judge published a legal opinion soon after the 1967 war.

the cananites were "inherited" and extinct nobody claims i am canaan and can prove they are entitled. the one guy an israeli newspaper interviewed got caught lying, when he said "jews stole it from canan and we msulims those arabs are us" the interviewer responded "i know you celebrate the holy sacrifice kurban when your ancestor ishmael... you know what i mean." the interviiew ended in the newspaper with that.

so even if war is stealing with no ownership still modern israle fought a defensive war that legally entitled it to land equal as any other nation regardless of a majority of u.n. which has many muslim countries and oil dependant countries who dont wanna anger the arab oil countries. but nobody claims that when the do not have bias involving jews as above without even equating same as mecca, no issue to argue "the brits conquered the jordan river region from ottoman" no issue and equaly same when jews conquered canan in ancient times even if we could find a canaaniite and equally and more justified from jordan in a defense war in more recent century.

endnote religious propaganda, jews 1000 years ago wrote "war is stealing except when the CREATOR OF THE world decides to give his product to ancient israel" then called judea for the jews who lived there, kuz creator never "gave" in prophecy, land to anybody else. did he?

hb


 



Wednesday, June 7, 2023

A religious fable: the New history Students in fourth 4 grade

A religious fable: the New history Students in fourth 4 grade

a view from the moon while i will be walking there

introduction, this Fable does not point at any specific religion nor any specific god. also i am not claiming it happened yet, i never experienced the story, or fable, that i will write here but one day kids are gonna mimic their parents:

Once upon a Time on "earth two" a group gathered for the office Independence Day barbecue. the coworkers and their families gathered at a park where the job provided hot dogs to BBQ beside buns and salads.

as expected some of the christian workers were VERY enthusiastic about their faith and had an opportunity of a gathering to make "friends" and "share the treasure" that they found and believed.

i was one of those so i approached a couple and their brat to introduce myself. "hi my name is name. i am new in the company only six months. how long have you been here?" pa replied, "me? my wife is the one in the company and... [in that world i did not get accused of misoginism for asking the man, so you know i am not talking about the real world] "she started, when was it honey?" he concluded. so she added "last month June tenth 2023."

now that i had broken the ice i faith-forged my way. "have you heard about the private school missionary academy by central park chicago?"

the brat age 11 got triggered by the word missionary. "missionary is a waste of time no CHANCE [possibility like probability zero] that god is real".

pa was more cautious, "is that realy the name?"

i explained "yes it was named for the catholic missionaries who came here from spain to make a settlement here." pause, "not the content of the scool lessons" i added.

"good thing too" ma ejaculated "people should not be taking advantage of the young age to plant those silly stories about miracles and god." uh oh i would not be able to spread my faith here... oh well i could still start the friendship and perhaps LATER save their souls. god had been mercifully patient waiting for me, hadn't he? such i quietly consoled myself.

"what do you mean young age?" i guided the conversation. so she elaborated, "at the age when kids BELIEVE their parents about the tooth fairy and santa claus, they then hear about god and powerful plagues before kids realize to be skeptical about anything supernatural."

in that world they did not allow trans education until twellfth grade, not even in 4 grade, when they learnt about reproductive fluids in male and female teens, so i could not use THAT as an excuse to defend/justify, equaly teaching young students that jesus fed five thousand with five fish and five breads which must have been a miracle.

i tried to distinguish "but parents are saying that, [those characters] about someone they know is fake, i contrast to religion they think is real."

in a chorus pa and brat shot back the oft repeated line "not enough EVIDENCE exists to believe in any god".

i had to be careful or the friendship would end within a minute of it starting, and i needed to make at least one friend, to end my loneliness, even if i failed at saving their souls, so i tread carefully, "i agree with you all that the proofs are weak..." before i could finish the thought, "very weak", interrupted pa, "no proofs" interrupted ma, "...but consider people dont complain about that for OTHER parts of history".

ma was ready, "history? god is all about supernatural so that needs better proof than familiar stuff". i did not agree but she was making a fair distinction, so despite i wanted to argue more, i said "very well presented." the silence was awkward as noone knew what to say next, [in the real world she would say i dont need your approval but this was on earth 2 remember?] but i had done missionary training so my instructions had been to talk about popular issues like sports... i quickly filled the silence with "i am really excited about the game, you know miami seagulls will play our panthers in baseball this weekend" brat started spouting stats about the players, and which were his favorite in each position [on field, arg! i mean the baseball diamond nothing more!], and i had time to take my first bite of hot dog with relish double meaning.

i had not realized that my method had swayed the brat, who loved sports, i could not know his thoughts that he thought even the sucker who fell for god talked about cool baseball... but i would hear about it a few days later... from his miffed ma.


for now we ate the tasty food and crunched the fresh salad and talked about baseball pros and games.

July fifth was the last day of school and their son not named brad rode the school bus as usual in the morning. he watched the bullies in his class beating up the 8 year olds as usual. "god does not save them" he smirked... but then a related thought flashed in his mind... yeh the one he heard from me.

brad and the students filed out of the narrow door of the scool bus and he went to his first class.

teacher mr. mistt announced they would review the history final so everyone would know the correct answer regardless if they had bothered to study. the exam had been about the civil war. "one which fort did the civil war start at?" hands shot up. "mary tell us." she said with confidence "fort sumter in 18 sixty..." but before she could say the year, "...WAIT! i only asked about the place."

everybody lowered their hand except brad.

"brad you can't leave we are revieing the test answers" but brad responded, "you can't mark anybody wrong on THAT one. i mean that theory that the first shot was fired at fort sumpter lacks sufficient evidence even to believe, let alone mention in a scool book."

brad was just bluffing he was not refering to the claim that shots had been fired at a different place.

most of the class moaned and the teacher said "history is facts. no shots were fired before the slavers shot at the free-ers who came to negotiate a demiliterization of several forts."

brad shrugged. he was done with his involvement but... my virus had spread.

teacher continued... "two, matt, who was confederate president when the war started?" matt said the same name as the book but... four kids chorused "not him, there is not enough evidence to believe HE was the one." another brat added "we never saw who was president then or army general" but the history teacher ignored them.


mistt was focussing on the goal of teaching the answers, "paul, three which years were the war?" paul answered but not about the question, "it was before i was born, i dont have to believe anything just kuz it is in a book"

my virus became an epidemic, mary again spoke, "yeh i bet they never really needed this war kuz slavery never happened, people know better than to buy any human as a slave. we would never do that".

paul began again, "if there was a war it was probably about border land and greed, like most wars, this whole story was just to hide the shame of the real ugliness and pretend it was for a good cause."

brad added "the winners write the history"

mr. mistt could only gasp, he felt too shocked to answer and fled the room... when their planet exploded, illustration near introduction. in a huge orange fireball. the end.

the lesson of this religious fable helps point at the fact that people BELIEVE stuff without demanding "evidence beyond a book" before believing.


they DO NOT complain as these fictional students complained: when or who or what happened in books, before we were able to see for ourselves. only to avoid committing to any religion people start complaining "no proof" beyond a book.

Tuesday, June 6, 2023

truly VERY few muslims

 does quran and sharia obligate covering faces? see pictures but first we need to define some terms.

screenshot muslim source
the "veil" over head "somehow covered neck too" in quran not just sharia and not long Scarf but VEIL

screenshot muslim source

muslim tradition and representatives 

 

and screenshot muslim source

n specified face  not a "long scarf wrapping hair and bosom" that is not tradition 

 

continued 

modern society is "allow self determination" so if anyone said they are anything, that is what they are...

and this led to people born male announced they decide they are female and shouting and censorship and law suits. therefore when ciunting muslims westerners count BASED on self determination so if 900 million people say "i am muslim" then that is the westerners recognition.

however religion realy is commitment to the religious books  for example jew book said dont eat pig, (surprising that despite being neighbors and COMMON shared trait no pork and yes circumcision israel and muslim states cant/dont unite on these 3 common traits?) 

so if a jew does not commit to jew book he is only jew ethnicity not religious and equaly any religious book... including islam.

a muslim truly is someone who submitted to quran and since tradition interpreted quran to cover face those who are sincere obey and those who obey show sincerity... so we can distinguish between  the western idea of self determination that allows a blond hair pale skin to self determine they are a minority "i am black" as self determination ... in contrast to true submission which is what the term islam means.

we see the stat is not an accurate description of the amount, because it used western standards of self determination instead of INTERNAL standards.

so when books say over 1 billion 1*10^9 that does not mean those submit to islam religion... how many do?

any lady who showed her face has free speech to call herslef anything including muslim but truly not "submit" the word muslim means submit, to the quran. 

those who submit to quran cover faces as in picture and those who cover faces are muslim so far less than 100 million... and this also indicated men, how? if their young daughters were NOT taught by father to cover face that indicated the father true identity so we see very few people are muslim same as very few jews are "judaism religious" only ethnicity 

why do i write this today? kuz today i saw someone asked as i saw today "what do people think of muslim girls" the true meaning of that term is submit and submit to tradition and quran so that included a very small population, not the number in western polling, and hence my bafflingly "absurd reply" referring to my background of almost joining islam.a muslim submitted to quran and islamic interpretation so those muslims are they pretty? i cant see their faces which is the PURPOSE of the covering. pure mind not any emotion nor mocking.

Saturday, June 3, 2023

potter stone, video, 2001 another summary with fan fiction in time order

title: in film, showed title philosopher stone but i heard say sorcerer stone? i guess actors said both names of the stone, same as book had both titles one for u.k. culture where title is marketing, to reference a real world legend, and another for u.s. where sorceror is easier to understand.

quote: something not there to get noticed

intro: the film only referd to the book... to show the cool stuff and add some surprises but not "stand alone". what if we did not read the book? then the beginning is mysterious and uninteligible without book. a stand alone would have less details and less vague dialog. only "a wizard used magic and moved light from lamps. in the darkness, a bike flew with baby, who got delivered to a home. [censor the rest in case someone did not read book.] baby has scar... the same as the kid who awoke. +fan fiction: a lady wearing a "witch hat" clicked a device that moved light from lamps. a bike flew down. its rider SILENTLY carried baby to door. 

note: to understand the bad film, i add from book, in case you did not read: wizards delivered an orphan. note: pa could put baby in orphanage, as an aunt suggested, but he prefered having a "slave".

STORY: harry, the same kid with the same scar on forehead, awoke to ma's noisy waking, not love style. cousin fatty jumped to make more noise before he pushed harry. soon harry the slave cookd breakfast and while serving, pa scolded for not brining coffee despite busy working. harry replied as trained "yes uncle" same as a slave must.

cousin dudly complained that his many presents were not enuf so parents who cant bear their beloved son sad say they will add more presents. note: this introduces harry had a rough life: noisy ma, mean bully who pushed him and awful pa uncle.

STORY: they drove to zoo [without the kid in the book because it was a different story] editor note: the book is fiction so most of the details are fiction but... those details common in both sources the video matching book are the disguised truth of the documentary. for exampple harry and dudly went to a zoo preserved in both sources but book added kid because book is fiction  film also added to dramatize the documentary around the historical facts

have faith amen.

STORY: at zoo they looked at snake and banged the glass. they walked to another cage before harry said "sorry about them..." but before he could say more the snake rose. "can you hear me" the snake SAID yessss. [eve could speak parsle tongue get it?]

dud saw and ran book pushing harry down. harry felt annoyed and instantly dud fell into water like no glass. snake escaped and said thanksssss. dud was trapped behind glass.

at home pa said "what did you do?" harry: "i did not touch him. it was like magic." pa: there is no such thing as magic" but if so cant blame harry. we see he knew magic was real, blaming harry, but lied so harry would not know that he knew magic was real.

later, harry carried mail to table but dud stole harry mail.

+fan fiction: THAT one pa carried to fire and waved it teasing harry before  dropped it in. then he went to the car and drove away. inside they heard a knock so aunt sent harry "go on answer it" he saw hagrid who said, "i know they burnt your letter so i came personally to invite you to howarts."

"hogwarts"? asked harry so hagrid explained yes you are a wizard. ma came and said we will not pay for that [in home instead of on isle, that and flying envelopes mail post was just dramatazation for marketing kuz knew the moment it hit the fire that burned so no try to send]. harry came with hagrid to leaky caulldron an inn. [see book 3]. on tuesday [of 1990 not like official calendar], the pair celebrated his birthday end of July. his umbrella conjured a cake so they ate some.

he pointed his umbrella, notice no wand? as explained later videos, at mirror and zapd. it reflected and they moved to the bank. 

Story: more envelopes came [but the sender knew so no need to send] and flew around room. later hagrid took harry to a wall, its bricks moved aside. they went to a bank. inside, harry saw his family gold and took some. they took something wrapped from another vault. then he bought supplies. when guy explained wand chose you, +it did so a wand flew to harry. [no "nothing" kuz book fiction, no sparks kuz not match book just dramatization for exciting sparks, and no error tries, kuz the "wand chose him" so flew to him.] hagrid told how you know-who tried to kill harry's family. he murdered pa and ma but mysteriously harry survived and v "was gone" corpse??

harry went thru bricks WITH ron so both sat together in train. harry bought sweets for himself and ron. after train some went unseen in carraiges that moved without horses. harry and ron went with other first years on a boat that moved without rowing, across lake and into castle. 

the sorting hat put kids in houses. mean kid was slyth' so harry asked "anything" but slyth so gryff. after eating they went to dorm past portraits that moved like alive and similarly the stairs changed. later, they read that someone broke into a bankvault that had been emptied earlier the same day. they start the lessons, broom flying, potions and more. outside, draco flew with nevil ball...

fan fiction: got caught by teacher, so expelled as warned. even pa cant change. draco angrily threw it etc.

story: harry submitted to draco tease, wrongly, should ignore teases. he flew so draco threw it. harry chased and caught it causing him to join the game despite first year. later, stairs moved hhr' trio to the forbidden area. they saw filch cat and fled so filch wont see. they meet fluffy the three headed huge dog.

team captain explained the game of balls that fly as they decide. on halloween eve they celebrate with sweets and floating pumpkin instead of floating candles. they heard a troll came so they went to warn hermiy-nnee who was dodging the troll-club. harry jumped on club and on to troll. ron successfully did the spell that he had failed so its club rose and dropped on troll head saving her and harry. teachers came and hermione took the blame.

later harry got a gift the fastest broom at the time. he played sport with broom but someone jinxed it until herm' made a fiery distraction. harry chased and grabed the golden orb in his mouth!

harry and ron stayed at the school for christmas and harry got a special cloak present that can hide the wearer.

harry used cloak to go to library but cant find book and filch heard him so he fled into a chamber where harry saw his parents in mirror. later trio visited hagrid and watched hatched dragon. draco saw and squeeled so all 4 get detention. fan fiction draco had been expelled as warned before flying.  so no saw. still filch caught harrry like book, kuz not using cloak with hagrid. ergo harry went to forest where a hooded guy was eating unicorn blood. guy came toward harry until a centaur horse man saved harry.

the next morning, harry scar hurt. [fan fiction NOW due to voldemort near in quirrel, who grabbed harry and asked about stone. harry did not know so v ordered q to kill. harry tried to run but FLAMES now. q started strangling harry to DEATH danger! harry hand burnt q so q stopped and fled.] trio went to 3 headed dog that was sleeping and proceeded to try to stop snape from getting the stone.

harry flew to seek the key but only managed to chase it down... where hermione grabbed it. ron led a chess game with destruction of pieces explosions and flames. ron sacrificed his health to help harry. harry went to mirror chamber to stop snape but found quirrel=q and his second face voldemort=v. [+fan fiction: harry tried to surprise snape petrificus same as heard hermione use on nevil. found v attached to q both petrified. so dumbldore locked the statue in the special mirror to end threat so only need to destroy horcruxes.] potter got stone from mirror so quirrel tried to strangle him to death to kill harry and get stone. note: climax odd priority. fan fiction the fire and strangle were earlier same as tried to kill on broom, and harry defense same, but not kill q', but by mirror harry surprised and petrificusd him with voldemort attached as above.

potter learnt how his ma's sacrifice protected him from voldemort and helped him against quirrel. harry potter's house got points for his brave success so won the cup. fan fiction not gave points so slytherin won.

Thursday, June 1, 2023

topic knowing god

topic knowing god

many "excuses" exist and were taught that serve the purpose of not searching or ending the search "too early" as one college prophesor wrote.

we can analyze the ancient jew faith that they teach and believe both: "know god" in the book they accept... and also teach maimonides idea that god is a mystery "the human mind cannot fathom" a god that does not change and so no anger etc. this idea served the purpose of believing that "god is un-know-able and un-acheiv-able" so since he is a mystery no point in the effort to find and they stop searching. but what if they did not stop? they might notice that the mystery god of catholic is ALSO called a "mystery" because we know what three 3 is and we know one so a god that is three but still one god as athanasian creed and catholic monotheism, is the mystery which matches maimonides but in a different way. the mystery god can be the god of three but still one that the human mind cannot grasp... so...

this does not mean "pray to mary" as the pope did and catholics give out on ppaper because "mary is not in their own trinity" not by outside inspection but their own faith they do not bother, but DOES exhibit that people stop searching "too early" due to the various excuses as i will explain... both these faiths "mystery" lesson served the purpose if i cant know the mystery then i have an excuse not to try.

from a: the ism called agnosticism, a for agnosticism, i dont mean the people who call themselves agnostic but the true ism in the paper dictionary is an ism the "blind faith"  that "cannot know" if god exists so this served the same LAZY purpose if i cannot know then i will not "waste time and effort" trying to know or inspecting it is an excuse to stop searching same as maiminides if cant know mystery then trying to know is fruitless an excuse not to bother.

similarly this generation a is for atheism came up with "the invisible dragon" and the "impossible tea kettle" these are not philosophy just imaginary items considered by their imaginers as imaginry as an excuse to be lazy and not search for a spirit god that cant be "tangibly touched" while for history they do not complain "i need tangible proof" who was the forgotten sixth president of u.s.a. in history. or 7,8,9, all the forgotten ones.

b is for budhism

the difference bbetween chinese budhism and india budhiism is that chinese considered budha a god to pray to which is why in the chinese culture the "believers" in budhist faith are rare they only have the "way of life" of budha and confucious in a society of agnosticisim not any god.

in contrast india budhism does not have any god just a goal to reach enlightenment not faith in any god which again if so i have an excuse not to think about god. karma is not some spirit god judging but something else.

c is for catholic 

as above god is a mystery so dont even think about three and one just that the three SI one so still monotheism as in athanasia creed but do not bother to notice mary is not in trinity and if book said "pray to father" then they could notice not to pray to mary nor jesus that scorned the teaching from the teacher jesus in their own book not just a competing religion criticism.

d is for daosim

few numbers so just briefly daoism and taoism is not about the human spirit living forever which does not need any acheivement but for the physical body to live forever so if i believe in reincarnation i will always have a body anyway whether i obey the way of life or not. but few are attracted to this faith due to no leader ever living past  years in a physicla body.

i is for islam.

there is only one god... welll that does not differ from catholic as above nor jewish still they have "physical action" i can see at my job they kneel five times each day "my opinion of problem" but it does not match the prophecy... their own quran said the jew book is light and good and if so the message was not corrupted and if so the new covenant is "in the heart" that was the definition heart sufficed so in heart so cannot be a new list of ruled "must kneel" a physicla act as they teach must nor the rabbi palm waving in autumn that is not "in the heart" alone so not match. we can easily see if we do not use the xcuse not to inspect that the two most populous groups couod notice... mary is not in the trinity of god and that if "gd is the one who wanted a new covenant in heart" then it cannot be obligating action and ceremony that is not from the god if they would know god as above.

j is for jew

jew book contains the message that the new covenant is the heart in jeremia knowing god "he wants not ceremony" that is the type of god not a god who wanted kneeling in submission nor ceremony. but they have an excuse not to know god because maimonides said god is unknowable which as above could refer to the mystery trinity which is also a mystery about one god... but if we cant know then we have an excuse not to try and be lazy same as atheist and agnostic as above. despite mamoinedes did not bother to bring a source that god is unknowable and conflicted his own book that said to know god in his own bible. i mean not kuz islam said jew is wrong but the jew book alone wrote. 

so the solution is to identify the laziness for what it is... excuses not to search... and just because you can think of excuses "does not excuse" from effort because CAN search and the few who do find evidences... "other indicators" like the dry foot print of the unseen dinosaur which is not the dinosaur but its effect...so anyone who CAN search but does not for any of these "mystery" excuses or invisible dragon or spaghetti god etc. still CAN search and inspect but did not and therefore the justice whatever the punishment will be is justified because they had a chance but relied on excuses as above.

does any faith match the "heart" surprisingly even those who do water baptism taught that it is not obligation and can be "saved" without it. which matched their book paul was "not sent to baptise and did  not" and that the element in communion is the faith not the physical act and therefore faith is the bread even if never eat even once which matched the book and human interpretation that most important is the "idea" of heart in book romans even without the physical act of eating in contrat to catholic who have obligation sacraments like eat the flesh of jesus... one does match heart but the other obligated more than heart baselessly and does not match... so no better than the obligation must kneel five times a day or whatever other physical ceremoony.

by association, horrible hitler was catholic?

by association, horrible hitler was catholic? 

what would a person do, to be a "catholic in good standing"?

we all know catholics have church service every sunday with mass and ceremony... so a catholic who wanted to be sincere would go every week and listen to mass and submit to his local priest and say confession because that is catholicism.

so which church did hitler go each week? was it catholic?

which priest did he say his secret confession to?

a noticeable characterisitic of catholicisim is the authority of the pope so 

before hitler invaded poland... do you think he asked his priest or the catholic pope with submission "if you let me\consider the action proper, i will invade poland with sodiers and bombers... 

dawkins used vague wording such as "catholic in good standing" as if hitler did all this, delusion page 311 and similarly page 310... well... dawkins would get caught lying if he tried to name any church or which priest? so he just used deception.

hitler acted free from the teachings in religion including VALUING human life as i will exhibit even if "he called himself christian" he was not submitting in action to christ nor caused by the teachings of christ but by violating the religious idea sanctity of human life... the freedom called atheism.

in new testament jesus never "summoned men to kill jews" page 312.

i bothered to check his footnotes... considering hitler gave famous public speeches where everybody was bullied into and scared into cheering... was any public speech say he was "obeying jesus or the pope" in his actions? his speeches were recorded!! dawkins failed to find any about his cruel actions, instead he quoted "the internet" websites that can write any lie as long as they pay for a server for web hosting... such a "reliable" source, sarcasm, page 452 f. 108. hitler wrote in his book "christianity is a scourge" not identify as christian so no need to "balance" as dawkins tried to reconcile the "contradiction" page 312, w.t.f. hitler openly opposed and did not consider himself a follower of christianity no matter what anyone claims he spoke. but dawkins started by the misleading "not" phrase "hitler never renounced" just to fool his readers... despite knowing hitler wrote a book opposing christianity.

by now we all know most websites are not trustworthy and if you studied in university your professor warned you as mine did "do not use wikipedia as a source" because you need trustworthy sources.

but dawkins would have his audience believe all that based on "the internet said so".

oh and the vast majority of polish population was catholic so "it seems appropriate" for the pope to tell hitler to attack and kill catholics, sarcasm.

obviously hitler wanted his own selfish benefit and honor and authority as he showed in action... in fact IF he would have been a sincere catholic he VERY LIKELY would have earned many voters!! and gotten power without the physical  violence by s.a. no need for the "famous putsch" nor s.a. that scared people nor the takeover of buildings of other political parties so they cant organize... and feel terror, but by association religion is "as bad as hitler" because hitler called himself a catholic and a christian according to "the internet", despite knowing hitler wrote a book where he openly opposed christianity.

if a catholic priest would tell hitler "do not attack catholics in poland" do you think he would subbmit to his spiritual guide? reference henry the 8 video related to shakespeare.

the same as dawkins wrote about stalin "did atheism CAUSE stalin to do all the cruel stuff" we can echo for hitler: the religious books and jesus and the pope did not SEND hitler to do the terrible stuff but the opposite only because he was truly acting like "no religion too" as john lennon sang, like an atheist he felt free to act against the teachings in the new testament book. if stalin and hitler would submit to the teachings of jesus and paul they would value each human life instead of ruthlessly torturing and killing so many for whatever goal. so it was the atheistic freedom or agnostic freedom that caused them to ignore the value of human life for example even suicide is forbidden because of the sanctity of human life you cant even kill self not "your body" and certainly not others.

similalry it is the lack of value in human life used to "try to justify" the "termination" of the undoubtedly human fetus it is human and it is as living as any "living tissue" ergo alive but more complex than a clump, as i will explain, and "undoubtedly human from the first moment of dna" so if people submitted to christianity then human life would have value but atheism is the excuse to kill millions of human fetus... but that is not the discussion here, just demonstrating the lack of value, the lack of religion caused the lack of value to human life so yes stalin and hitler felt free to do what they did caused by the "freedom of no religion" same as the lack of value for human fetus in our day.

dawkins would get "caught lying" if he equated actions: hitler arranged mass murder by the trainloads "not more evil than muslim sultans" page 308 gasp, so he used deception hitler INTENTIONS were not more evil... and even that as if he did not read mein kampf the exhibited intention: "jews are like cancer that needs to die" end quote.

only the "freedom of atheism" and the lack of value for human life is the idea used to justify all that death from "termination" of pregnnancy... imagine using that wording as a defence in murder court "i would never murder i just terminated the adult". to the feeling of freedom by stalin and hitler to the harmful tortures and deaths that they arranged instead if they had religion to VALUE human life they would submit and not arrange all that death so in answer to dawkins question page 309, yes the CAUSE for feeling free without value to human life was "no religion too".

even the title fuerher is a word used "in german language for god"!! if people knew that... which hitler said call me furher!! gasp.

both hitler and stalin would have EARNED VOTERS if they were christian "in good standing" same as presidents today say "god bless the usa" to attract voters kuz it works!!! 

they would not need the pain and death to rise to power but the lack of religion caused them to feel free and not submit.

writing about "their motivation", ignores the obligation of submission, that every greedy or angry person must resist anger because "anger and hate are sins"... as christianity taught. does atheism teach "hate and anger are sins?" only if it is "hate speech toward protected minority" used to censor people but hating white males is not a sin... only religion teaches not to hate. even gluttony is a sin to resist.

ONLY only due to not submitting to the religious books that caused the feeling of freedom in all those deaths and arranged tortures from stalin to hitler to millions of human lives as above called fetus as if "not calling it murder makes it okay" and not one rare abortion per month in each state of 50 states but thousands each day that athiests feel free to "mass murder" without catholicism to teach value of human life.

on page 309 dawkins tried to blame "religion" that the goal justified any "means" end quote, like to get by any means... the opposite religious books limit "the way to get stuff" not "by any means".

dawkins would be caught lying if he tried to name a church so he wrote the "not": hitler "never renounced" his  catholic faith... but in action he sure did! page 310.

"he remained religious" also on page 310 sounds like hitler went to church every week. sure he has freedom to write any lie besides slander, kuz it is his book but realize what a fool dawkins was when it came to his personal bias. the "leader" of the mockers.

there he writes how hitler "thanked god" but not the sender for actions. religous books "not the cause" instead the actions show not submit to the teachings of jesus that is the danger of atheism today "as long as we dont get caught in court we are free to do whatever we want" that is atheism. 

no fear of hell to overcome anger or greed that caused those horrible events by hitler stalin and even now the "morally correct termination" of countless human lives at abortion clinics undoubtedly human and as alive as "living tissue". did i just say "clump of cells"? which can be excised if its my own... in beauty surgery... that excuse would still only allow WHILE while the fetus is only a clump but once it is more complex... that "argument idea" would not justify killing an undoubtedly human life. using that argument conceded that must not kill after it is a clump when more complex.

besides anyway, the fetus d.n.a. DIFFERS from ma not the owner nor her own nose to lessen in a nose job.

so why do people think they can? because they say "no god to say cant do abortion" such they insist including dawkins in a different chapter which i will reply to later. but the topic now is that feeling of unbridled freedom caused hitler and stalin to violate religious principles such as the value of human life.

if hitler "opposed" atheism it was still only atheism that caused him to use methods "of stamping out" atheism and others even if he called himself catholic and christian he was not sent by pope nor teachings of christ.

so yeh it was hitlers atheism and stalins that made them feel free to do all that. elsewhere dawkins mocked "do i need hell to stop me from murder?" several yesses.... we see without fear of hell what they did and even fear of hell is sometimes not "enough" but without it we see what they did.

and yes without religion to teach abortion is a sin, many americans even now do feel "morally justified" to mass murder undoubtedly human fetus even "after clump of cell" when three layers and more complexity... but the topic is not abortion but associativity. hitler wrote publicly that he opposed christianity so even if he also called himself catholic and christian was only words but actions acted  with th atheistic freedom to do anything. in actions he renounced his submission to preist and pope so yes he renounced his catholicism and we see the danger of atheism and agnosticism by hitler and stalin who tortured millions and killed millions without value of human life.

why do you think people cant decide to arrange EVEN their own mercy killing unless they will die soon? only religion teaches the value of human life.

i will conclude with the bizarre absurdity... society makes a big fuss now about vegetarian and the unexcusable killing cows... but for the same society human fetus has no value even less than a cow. why is that relevant? because it described the atheistic freedom that hitler and stalin felt as above.