Sunday, July 24, 2022

muslim according to quran and islam surprised

in the year 2005, i found a hint in the "authoritative" rabbinic talmud that the laws of god had time limits. both rabbis in the debate agreed that a certain command needed repitition but one rabbi interpreted that it had repitition this matched a tradition in mkilta that the bible commands were for a limited time unless specified as some were this also matched the rule "grab less".

if so the religion of the rabbis was not only sinning in the sin of nadab and abihuu who volunteered a foreign fire not commanded for example light candles of hannuka that god did not command deserving death but even the commands were for a limited time and respect for tradition obligated respected time limits both dough custom c alled halla and truma on wine or even vegetables insult the tradition of a time limit as if no time limit.

similarly the less obvious ones that simply lack a specification for long term for example not working on sabbath in exodus chapter twenty 20.

if so what was the FOLLOWING religion that god wanted us to do after the time limit passed?

a billion catholics cant be wrong? so i studied about catholic ceremony and realized this is a problem of no new laws by the jewish tradition in talmud shabat and mishna zevahim about added blood where adding is a worse sin and more important than risking doing less. also the idea of a pope aroused my curiosity and they said the source was peter but jesuus appointed peter and peter had a mother in law so the pope idea of catholic rejected its own book.

next i tried islam and studied many ideas of islam until one fateful day in 2005.

i asked "if i join i wanna how the quran REALLY treats the deniers of muhamed". suspicious my teacher like a qadi in u.s. what do you mean to ask really?

i mean people only said they accepted islam for fear but were probably lying just to save their lives.

this caused my teacher to show me verse 2,62 in quran "jews have reward" so i asked if you truly believe that then you could be a christian. he explained that the qurran including that section is true and he truly could be a christian and eat ramadan but he chooses to fast ramadan and hopes for greater reward than the jews.

i argued: you are only saying that here in america but AFTER i commit to quran you will show me the opposite source somewhere same as if i was in saudi arabia.

my teacher insisted no the quran is true! even he could be a muslim while not doing the quran details and despite a later verse that book was "abrogated" by the later verse in this book 2 published first and anyway the word islam does not mean obey quran but belief in god.

i said if you interpret correctly then the quran is not exclusive. h eagreed "that is my point you are only joining because you WANT to join and choose between the valid path of monotheism or islam s your choice between valid options." i said thank you and that i would continue me search.

i wonder if in saudi arabia muslims are toild the quran is true... that they truly have several "VALID" options according to quran itself book,sura 2 baqara, aya 62.

so why do write this now?

kuz someone claimed that he read many peaceful verses in the quran and ignored the rest... and the rule of "abrogation" by later teaching.

even when able to reconcile tradition is that the later abrogated the earlier message different lists of 240 total over 500.

one of them is this issue in book 3 "lose the future world if noty islam" some list this as abrogating 2,62 but traditiojn is that book 2 is later than book 3! the order was not because book 3 was in the second city. so if abrogate then 2 abrogated 3! but truly as the muslim representative taught me islam does not exclude other monotheistic faiths as above.

i wish more muslims knew they had options, according to quran itself, as above perhaps some would eat on ramadan and suffer less... but more IMPORTANTLY  believe the MAIN faith of christian that jesus "died for sin but god raised him from dead" and be saved from sins.

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