Monday, January 23, 2023

did paul teach the divinity of jesus

most Christians claimed they believe in a trinity. both protestant and catholic claim they believe in a trinity meaning "one god three persons." so monotheism.
does that mean the analogy "a man worked as a judge. he stopped working as a judge and started working as a chef. this is the same person whether his title is chef or judge" but that is not the faith! jesus prayed not by my will but yours. they have separate wills.
origen specified jesus was less than god... that is not the same one nor a real god. undoubtedly origen knew gospel john where jesus said i and father are one but he also knew that as usual jesus spoke in symbols and parables... as he often did. he does not mean the "same one with different functions"  as described but a symbol as usual a parable.  
in fact paul specified several times that jesus is not the same as theo same as origen in Origen, First, 33–4 [I.3 despite knowing john chapter ten. 
when paul said "god raised jesus from the dead in romans, if truly dead they are not the same one because god raised him while he was dead. no need to separate body... as paul specified there and in cor. the spirit of god theo but jesus is lord not theo surely he knew john 10 but still taught not the same one. jesus spoke as usual in a symbol.
the "attractive hook" at the start of john seems to say both parts. if we replace the word "word" with jesus but that is neither the local meaning nor pauls faith.
the "word was with god" is separate not the same one... but which word? the word was god that is the letters with god. not as they claimed jesus was both with and god. that does not say which word god spoke? but he specified the word was god that was the word which was with god. the word became flesh. which word the word god became flesh. both paul and origen knew this and still distinguished not the same one.
the claim of divinity could be based on paul if he said jesus is theo the same word but instead it is baseless and differed frrom paul. so the trinity is not theo as most protestant and catholic claim that religion abandoned not only the teachings of paul but even their own book. only of someone distinguished theo from lord not divine and not theo are they trusting the word of god.
since jesus is less he is certainly not the same one nor a real god but less than god. if so hiw can his sacrifice drath pay for sins? because he is lord beyond any human even if son of god, believers are sons, but the son of god jesus was more, he was lord, so his death cleaned sins while still not god as paul and origen dared to write despite knowing john 10 still jesus words are same as usuual a symbol a nd parallel whereas precision is jesus is lord not theo.





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